Randomus

In a pure grappling match, I'm still very much convinced Shields would be able to sub him. In an MMA fight, however, it's much harder to say.

The person who beats GSP (and doesn't get a flash KO) will be the guy who can grind him down and make him mentally break. I think GSP mentally is still quite weak, but B.J. was unable to capitalize on that.

I'd rather see Shields and GSP over GSP moving up weight and getting completely dismantled against a faster, better Anderson Silva.

kantowrestler

And that proves Dana's point that you need to clean out a division before moving up in weight. At the time BJ fought GSP BJ had fought the two best guys in the weight division and a new contender arose in KenFlo! GSP still has a few guys to fight before he has cleaned out the welterweight division in UFC!

jcal

[quote=Randomus;922618]In a pure grappling match, I'm still very much convinced Shields would be able to sub him. In an MMA fight, however, it's much harder to say.

Maybe he could sub him in a Gi in a pure grappling match. I cant even imagine how bad GSP would beat the crap out of shields in an mma match. Dont forget were talking strikeforce where the UFC sends its losers. GSP is fighting Alves whos next for Shields Joe Riggs?

kantowrestler

Excuse me! I WOULD NOT CALL STRIKEFORCE UFC LOSERS TERRITORY! Strikeforce picks up UFC cutteys and stray EliteXC fighters, they aren't sent UFC losers!

jcal

I didnt mean losers with an L on their forehead, imeant people who were not winning in the ufc (losers), I purchased showtime just to watch events and I like most of their fighters its just a grade down in comp. Clearly you see that. When Cung Lee is a world Champion and it by beating Frank Shamrock and robbie lawler and Scott smith are ranked right up there at the top you have to see it for what it is. Great fights but not by the best of the best. Nick Diaz rules thats the main reason I purchased it.

kantowrestler

Well I guess I can't argue with you there. However, they arguably have the best women's division in the world with both EliteXC and Smackgirl shut down!

J.P.

If you take a look at the roster this really is not an accurate comment. There are fighters on the roster who refuse to go to the UFC at this moment in their carreer.

Also alot of fighters from Strikeforce have never fought in the UFC and Dana would love to have them.

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jcal

I dont see too many maybe gilbert melendez and allistar overeem, idont think they want paul buenetello back but I would, maybe Brett rogers in a couple more fights, pretty piss poor roster if you try to compare it to the UFC correct? discuss

joshua7789

Stikeforce has a the best roster after the UFC. That being said, they arent anywhere close when it comes to talent from top to bottom. Strikforce and Affliction are both very top heavy. They have some good fighters at the top, after that they dont have anything. Dont get me wrong, I love strikefore.

jcal

I dig strikeforce too, I dont care whos rated what sometimes like the ufc cause styles make fights and ive seen some pretty entertaining fights in SF as to where ive seen a whole card in the ufc and it sucked. I think 1 time cant remember which card but every fight was a bore. Silva- Leites comes to mind. No comparison to a Nick Diaz-scott smith fight. And they do have the best womans division. And I like jake shields, would watch him fight anytime I could, I just dont think some people realize how strong GSP ground control is and hes got good submission too, imo hes in a completely different league than shields. Shields would be on his back in the middle of a nightmare the whole fight id bet.