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STRIKEFORCE STRIKEFORCE is an American professional kickboxing and mixed martial arts promotion company based in San Jose, California. STRIKEFORCE has recently aquired the assets of the now defunked, ELITEXC.

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Old 07-05-2009, 10:18 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Of course this is a completely hypothetical situation as Shields is pretty happy in Strikeforce and GSP is pretty happy in the UFC. However, the fact Dana White and Scott Coker respect each other despite being in a business cold war might mean a co-promotion event for the first time in UFC history. We'll just have to wait and see!
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:21 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I dont see too many maybe gilbert melendez and allistar overeem, idont think they want paul buenetello back but I would, maybe Brett rogers in a couple more fights, pretty piss poor roster if you try to compare it to the UFC correct? discuss

Strikeforces LW division can definatly challenge the UFCs.

With fighters like Josh "The Punk" Thompson, Ishida, Gilbert Melendez, Jorge Masvidal, Duane "Bang" Ludwig, Yves Edwards, and K.J.s apparent return, you also have to take under consideration guys like Fabricio Camoes, Conner "Hurricane" Huen, and Jorge Gurgel.

Not to mention that Eddie Alvarez stills owes fights on his Pro-Elite contract so I can def see him fighting under the banner this year.

The MW div is stacked as hell as well, Cung Le, Benji Radach, Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Joey Villasenor, Misaki, Tim Kennedy, and Andre Galvao. There is alot of talent here. Take away Anderson Silva and this division would rival the UFCs.

LHW is thin so I have no arguments there.

HW is getting stronger. Hopefully they can get Herman signed.

But Lavar "Big" Johnson is an absolute beast. Alistair Overeem and Fabricio Werdum are capable of dismantling damn near any HW in the world and the two of them would terrorize the HW division in the UFC. Brett Rogers is a heavy handed fighter. He's 10 and 0 all stoppages. People call him overrated but you know what? He's mopping fighters up in the cage and KO victories speak for themselves. Also Abongo Humphry is very aggressive and chin strong. He has alot of potential he stays in the pocket when he needs to, uses great lateral movement, and cuts angles perfectly. He's gonna make a great contender.

Last but not least is Paul "The Headhunter" Buentello. This guy has to be the most underrated MMA HW in the game. He went 3-1 in the UFC. He's 6-1 in his last seven including the dismantling Kiril Sidelnikov at Affliction. Buentello was the underdog in that fight and absolutly dominated him. I think Pauls HW striking game is the most underrated out there.

The WW division in Strikeforce is in desperate need of fighters. Nick Thompson, Nick Diaz, Joe Riggs, Phil Baroni, Luke Stewart and Eric Bradley can't get it done. I see Nick Diaz dominating this division. With Nick Thompson being the guy who kicks everybodys ass except the title holder. The UFCs WW division is 10Xs better then Strikeforces.

All in all for the budget, the acquisitons, the time it's been around, and it's momentum I'll give Strikeforce 2 years. And I think they'll start being mentioned as the best in the game. You have to rememeber Scott Coker loves super fights and cross promos with DREAM and Affliction and the fans love this. Strikeforce is going to slowley acquire more fighters and make alot of money with their events.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:14 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Talking Division Comparisons

I have to agree that the lightweight division in Strikeforce can definately compete with the UFC equivalent. Welterweight division considering that its outside the UFC is pretty talented cause the UFC welterweight division is the deepest in the weightclass. I also agree that the middleweight division is also competitive with the UFC and yes the lightheavyweight divion is light cause once again the UFC equivalent is the deepest in the weightclass. Heavyweight is growing and yes the up and coming fighters and copromotions will make Strikeforce better and better as the years go on!
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:02 AM   #64 (permalink)
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[quote=J.P.;924328]Strikeforces LW division can definatly challenge the UFCs.

With fighters like Josh "The Punk" Thompson, Ishida, Gilbert Melendez, Jorge Masvidal, Duane "Bang" Ludwig, Yves Edwards, and K.J.s apparent return, you also have to take under consideration guys like Fabricio Camoes, Conner "Hurricane" Huen, and Jorge Gurgel.

Not to mention that Eddie Alvarez stills owes fights on his Pro-Elite contract so I can def see him fighting under the banner this year.

The MW div is stacked as hell as well, Cung Le, Benji Radach, Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Joey Villasenor, Misaki, Tim Kennedy, and Andre Galvao. There is alot of talent here. Take away Anderson Silva and this division would rival the UFCs.
UFC MW
.Middleweight Top 10
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Demian Maia
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Yushin Okami
6. Wanderlei Silva
7. Patrick Cote
8. Chael Sonnen
9. Yoshihiro Akiyama
10. Thales Leites

Are u serious look again
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The MW div is stacked as hell as well, Cung Le, Benji Radach, Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Joey Villasenor, Misaki, Tim Kennedy, and Andre Galvao. There is alot of talent here. Take away Anderson Silva and this division would rival the UFCs.
UFC MW
.Middleweight Top 10
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Demian Maia
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Yushin Okami
6. Wanderlei Silva
7. Patrick Cote
8. Chael Sonnen
9. Yoshihiro Akiyama
10. Thales Leites

Are u serious look again
I recall saying "take away Anderson Silva"

First and foremost, Jake Shields is pretty capable of finishing everybody on that list excluding Anderson Silva.

Robbie Lawler would thrash Sonnen, Cote, Leites, and Akiyama.

Villasenor is slept on badly and I think he's capable of giving a few of those guys fits.

Radach is techical as hell in the striking game and only Marquardt on that list could outbox him. Cote wouldn't come close.

Cung, well he's pretty good lol.

And BTW Maia's jits is good, but I think Jakes is better.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:50 PM   #66 (permalink)
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There are no middleweights in this ranking. Is this the updated rankings or is this your personal rankings?
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:05 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I recall saying "take away Anderson Silva"

First and foremost, Jake Shields is pretty capable of finishing everybody on that list excluding Anderson Silva.

Robbie Lawler would thrash Sonnen, Cote, Leites, and Akiyama.

Villasenor is slept on badly and I think he's capable of giving a few of those guys fits.

Radach is techical as hell in the striking game and only Marquardt on that list could outbox him. Cote wouldn't come close.

Cung, well he's pretty good lol.

And BTW Maia's jits is good, but I think Jakes is better.
I disagree, I think maias jitz on a whole different level than shields or his teachers or anybody he trains with, just my opinion, If Marquart went over there and got a title fight I think strikeforce would have a new champion, I think hendo would beat shields and what about wandy, whos gonna beat him Radach? cmon! shonen would take lawler down easily and control him on the ground imo thats what I think and Im sticking to it
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Talking Maia better than Silva

I personally think that Maia is probably the best MMA fighter I've seen with a jui-jutsu background! He submitted Sonnen like a street thug! It's my belief that the guy could submit Silva if the two were to fight and Anderson would find himself in a tough spot!
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I personally think that Maia is probably the best MMA fighter I've seen with a jui-jutsu background! He submitted Sonnen like a street thug! It's my belief that the guy could submit Silva if the two were to fight and Anderson would find himself in a tough spot!
Yes but maia would be in a tough spot as well while the fight is standing, id still take Silva cause hes got more tools.But im a anderson fan and until he messes up I think hes the best and the best to watch barring the leites fight, you cant blame him for the Cote fight he didnt fall apart Cote did.
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Cool Anderson's last few matches

Well a good fighter doesn't put on boring matches and still maintain being the best pound for pound fighter in the world! If Silva were the best in the world he would've torn apart both Cote and Leites, not been boring the way he was! That is why up until the Sylvia fight everyone was saying Fedor wasn't the fighter he used to be cause he had a bunch of one-sided or lackluster fights, so his win just gave everyone confidence in him!
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