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SideWays222 07-20-2010 08:26 AM

Im thinking about buying a monitor in a couple of weeks. The one im currently using i have had for maybe 7-8 years now. It is a verrrry small flat screen monitor. I dont even know how many inches but i just took a ruler and measured it and it is about a 13&1/2 inch monitor (I also learned today that Monitor size is measured by the distance from one corner of the screen's viewable area to the diagonally opposite corner. "Which i had no clue"). The monitor i must say is suprisingly sturdy and in good condition. It isnt until recently that sometimes the Monitors Tint will go somewhat Pinkish but it usually reverts back in 3-4 seconds.

So iv been looking online for good monitors and looking at reviews and what not but just like with every other piece of technology i go shopping for, i like to know a good amount of detail on what im looking at. (Im only 20 years old but hate the idea of buying something that's more expensive to only finding out a month later that i could have bought something better for cheaper if only i knew what i was looking for.).<--- Bought a computer once, only to start studying on computer specifications half a year later only to learn that if i decided to build this computer myself i would have saved 500$ easy.

What im looking for is a good gaming monitor but im also not trying to blow a hole in my wallet. I also tend to look at the monitors specification but in reality i really dont know what im looking at. I tried looking for articles that explain what makes a good monitor and what spec is what but i cant find anything in good detail. Does anyone here know alot about that kind of stuff that can write me a decent overview on what spec is what and what i should be looking for the most. Or even better does anyone maybe know a good website that would have an article on this subject?? Also if you have any suggestions on monitors id love to see them. Im looking to spend around 200-400$ and size of the monitor isnt that important to me because 1. I dont have a crazy amount of room and 2. My current monitor is pretty damn small that any monitor now a days is a pretty big size upgrade. (I do want to make it 19Inches or over though.)

Thanks for any help.

Anyone??

Composure 07-22-2010 11:17 AM

My mom just recently bought a new PC and got a Emachines flatscreen monitor. 21" for I think about 130-150. I've used it and it does look really nice. If you'd like I can always snap pics of it and show you.

cisco2403 07-22-2010 02:54 PM

Some of the important things to look for is the resolution, refresh rate, contrast ratio and response time. If you are using it for gaming, you probably want something with good resolution and response time. The highest resolution you can go I believe is 1600x1200, basically the amount of pixels the monitor can display horizontally x vertically. The refresh rate is how fast the monitor can refresh the pixels on the screen. The faster the refresh rate, the more crisp the picture. You generally want something around 75 hz. The contrast ratio is the difference between the light and dark on the monitor. The higher the contrast ratio the brighter it is in light and the darker it is in black. The response time is how fast the pixels can change color therefore reducing streaks. A good response time for gaming is probably around 10-12 ms(milliseconds). If you are looking to spend around 200-400, you should be able to get a good monitor with at least a 19 in screen.

Mirage445 07-22-2010 06:04 PM

It really depends on what you are going to be doing.

If you don't really game you don't really need an extravagant expensive monitor, and should only really look at size and resolution, also if you don't have a good graphics card, chances are you will not be able to use a really high resolution anyway.

If you're really into gaming and have a good graphics card that is capable of using higher resolutions, while maintaining a high quality of detail in games as well as framerate, then by all means choose a monitor with a high resolution and good response time.

As far as the refresh rate goes, I've pretty much always used 60hz and have never had any issues or complaints.

We would probably be able to help you more if you were to give us some more information about your your graphics card, and what games you would be playing just to get a bit of insight of your situation.

Hope this helped!

The Horticulturist 07-27-2010 09:58 PM

200-400?!?!?! MAN! You can get the ultimate monitor for that price. I am sorry that I'm not a nerd about it :(. I have possibly the worst brand ever (ACER) 23" (I think it was $160) and a better quality 30" RCA($300 on sale). Both wif da HD

SideWays222 07-27-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Composure (Post 1229043)
My mom just recently bought a new PC and got a Emachines flatscreen monitor. 21" for I think about 130-150. I've used it and it does look really nice. If you'd like I can always snap pics of it and show you.

No thats ok. I have a good idea of what the basic Emachines monitor looks like. Thanks though :D

If you still want to post some pics though id still welcome it.. but if its a hassle dont worry about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cisco2403 (Post 1229250)
Some of the important things to look for is the resolution, refresh rate, contrast ratio and response time. If you are using it for gaming, you probably want something with good resolution and response time. The highest resolution you can go I believe is 1600x1200, basically the amount of pixels the monitor can display horizontally x vertically. The refresh rate is how fast the monitor can refresh the pixels on the screen. The faster the refresh rate, the more crisp the picture. You generally want something around 75 hz. The contrast ratio is the difference between the light and dark on the monitor. The higher the contrast ratio the brighter it is in light and the darker it is in black. The response time is how fast the pixels can change color therefore reducing streaks. A good response time for gaming is probably around 10-12 ms(milliseconds). If you are looking to spend around 200-400, you should be able to get a good monitor with at least a 19 in screen.

Thank you.. this helped alot. You got any suggestions by any chance?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirage445 (Post 1229399)
It really depends on what you are going to be doing.

If you don't really game you don't really need an extravagant expensive monitor, and should only really look at size and resolution, also if you don't have a good graphics card, chances are you will not be able to use a really high resolution anyway.

If you're really into gaming and have a good graphics card that is capable of using higher resolutions, while maintaining a high quality of detail in games as well as framerate, then by all means choose a monitor with a high resolution and good response time.

As far as the refresh rate goes, I've pretty much always used 60hz and have never had any issues or complaints.

We would probably be able to help you more if you were to give us some more information about your your graphics card, and what games you would be playing just to get a bit of insight of your situation.

Hope this helped!

Well i think i mentioned il use it for Gaming, i got a pretty decent desktop, an Dell XPS420 with a 8800GeForce Graphics card. I like to play alot of games.. usually i dont play any for too long. I like MMO'S though i havent been really into one for a while now. I will be getting StarCraft 2 in a couple days though which im sure il spend a good amount of time on.

I wont be using it alot for TV usage and what not because i have a LED '42' TV in my room and i have the cable that lets me watch the stuff thats on my monitor on my tv which i find alot more appealing. I dont like using my TV for PC gaming because its just not convenient with my setup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJ (Post 1232083)
200-400?!?!?! MAN! You can get the ultimate monitor for that price. I am sorry that I'm not a nerd about it :(. I have possibly the worst brand ever (ACER) 23" (I think it was $160) and a better quality 30" RCA($300 on sale). Both wif da HD

Haha Well currently i guarantee your monitor ia lot better then mine. The brand is Norcent... or something. Not even sure if their still around cause honestly i dont think iv seen the brand since this monitor.

JuggNuttz 07-28-2010 12:15 AM

well your price range is gonna leave you in the TN (twisted nematic) area of LCD displays, IPS (In Plane Switching) is more expensive but MUCH better. TN is 6-bit, IPS is 8-bit i could get into all the spec, but then id truly show what a geek i am lol.

luckily tho there is the ViewSonic VP2365wb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1&Tpk=VP2365wb for $300 that is IPS and 23"! its trade off is its 1080p (1920x1080) instead of what others will have at that size (1920x1200) but that not as a big a deal and modern games should be able to do that resolution easy. and from what i read is a lil bit dimmer then the competition.... but the color depth is much much much better,

to quote MaximumPC on this monitor...

"Twisted Nematic LCD panels blow. After running through our DisplayMate, Blu-ray, and gaming gauntlet of Lab tests, the TN displays we’ve reviewed retreated with their DVI cables tucked between their legs. So what’s a budget upgrader to do?

If you want our advice—and you do—pick up ViewSonic’s VP2365wb. It’s a 23-inch IPS panel offering 8-bit color depth. It’s equipped with a four-port USB hub and a height-adjustable stand that tilts, rotates, and pivots. And you can find it selling online for about 300 bucks.

You will encounter trade-offs: Although it’s marketed as a “professional” monitor, its max resolution is a consumer-ish 1920x1080. It’s dimmer than its pricier competitors, and it doesn’t have an HDMI input. But in Lab tests, we had no problem playing games or movies, and it’s a better photo-editing monitor than any TN display we’ve tested.

✔ In-plane switching display offers superior image and viewing quality"

so there ya have it hehe, prolly 6 years ago i spent $1200 on my 24" dell widescreen, which is also an IPS, and its still awesome! id kinda like to go with a 30" but again im a geek lol. man i feel like i should be adjusting my glasses and have a pocket protector........

ZeroPRIDE 07-30-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideWays222 (Post 1227685)
Im thinking about buying a monitor in a couple of weeks. The one im currently using i have had for maybe 7-8 years now. It is a verrrry small flat screen monitor. I dont even know how many inches but i just took a ruler and measured it and it is about a 13&1/2 inch monitor (I also learned today that Monitor size is measured by the distance from one corner of the screen's viewable area to the diagonally opposite corner. "Which i had no clue"). The monitor i must say is suprisingly sturdy and in good condition. It isnt until recently that sometimes the Monitors Tint will go somewhat Pinkish but it usually reverts back in 3-4 seconds.

So iv been looking online for good monitors and looking at reviews and what not but just like with every other piece of technology i go shopping for, i like to know a good amount of detail on what im looking at. (Im only 20 years old but hate the idea of buying something that's more expensive to only finding out a month later that i could have bought something better for cheaper if only i knew what i was looking for.).<--- Bought a computer once, only to start studying on computer specifications half a year later only to learn that if i decided to build this computer myself i would have saved 500$ easy.

What im looking for is a good gaming monitor but im also not trying to blow a hole in my wallet. I also tend to look at the monitors specification but in reality i really dont know what im looking at. I tried looking for articles that explain what makes a good monitor and what spec is what but i cant find anything in good detail. Does anyone here know alot about that kind of stuff that can write me a decent overview on what spec is what and what i should be looking for the most. Or even better does anyone maybe know a good website that would have an article on this subject?? Also if you have any suggestions on monitors id love to see them. Im looking to spend around 200-400$ and size of the monitor isnt that important to me because 1. I dont have a crazy amount of room and 2. My current monitor is pretty damn small that any monitor now a days is a pretty big size upgrade. (I do want to make it 19Inches or over though.)

Thanks for any help.

Anyone??

Quote:

Originally Posted by cisco2403 (Post 1229250)
Some of the important things to look for is the resolution, refresh rate, contrast ratio and response time. If you are using it for gaming, you probably want something with good resolution and response time. The highest resolution you can go I believe is 1600x1200, basically the amount of pixels the monitor can display horizontally x vertically. The refresh rate is how fast the monitor can refresh the pixels on the screen. The faster the refresh rate, the more crisp the picture. You generally want something around 75 hz. The contrast ratio is the difference between the light and dark on the monitor. The higher the contrast ratio the brighter it is in light and the darker it is in black. The response time is how fast the pixels can change color therefore reducing streaks. A good response time for gaming is probably around 10-12 ms(milliseconds). If you are looking to spend around 200-400, you should be able to get a good monitor with at least a 19 in screen.

Newegg FTW! Deal ends soon dude. Some one more geekish should review this but spending 200-400$ is insane. This falls under your budget so you can spend the extra money on a CPU upgrade or sli your 8800 if you can.

osmium 12-30-2010 04:19 AM

In case you haven't bought anything yet I'd like to chime in. I completely disagree with the people telling you to buy these e-ips panels. Having a 178/178 viewing angle isn't important at all for gaming unless you are going with a multi-display, a solid tn has 170/160 which is more than adequate unless you are going to have your monitor wall mounted above you for some reason.

The color gamut increase isn't necessarily important for just gaming either unless you have a color quality fetish. IPS sacrifices performance for quality. If you want to use your monitor like a tv to watch a lot of blurays with other people or do graphics design work it is worth it. Also single player games probably actually benefit more from IPS than TN since FPS and response time aren't as big of a deal as they are with multiplayer games.

The most important things you want out of a monitor to play first person shooters, mmorpgs,etc are refresh rate, brightness, response time, and a native resolution relative to screen size. A good TN monitor is superior to e-ips in the same price range for online gaming.

I just purchased this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ASUS%20VG236He

The version with the 3d kit is 150 dollars more and found here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...092&Tpk=VG236H

The lack of a good led backlight hurts its overall color quality but 74% NTSC is above average for a good TN and 120hz is ******* crazy. Don't buy an LCD from newegg also use amazon they have a better return policy.

For future reference on all things computer hardware http://www.anandtech.com/ and http://www.hardocp.com have probably the most consistent and best reviews.


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