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Old 12-09-2008, 11:44 PM   #401 (permalink)
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but in order to gain strength, you have to gain size
Thats not really true. I've gotten stronger over the years without getting bigger. Especially during wrestling seasons, I don't know why, but my 10th grade wrestling season all my lifts went up and I didn't gain weight. Maybe its just me.

Wukka, when I reach a bench plateau I do power press (set the pins like 3" below lock out and then bench) and I can really jack the weight up and destroy my chest with those and it helps a lot with how you use your triceps while benching. And board presses, because it helps (for me) with the tricep and deltoid part of it. Also I do chest twice a week, one with like 5-10 sets of 3 reps and with 4x10 the high volume always seems to help. And- you wont believe this one, but pushups have always helped me, 2 sets to failure after youre done on chest. I busted the 225 plateau my freshmen year while I was at a military academy, so we did loads and loads of pushups, and I hit 245 about 3 weeks after I started. I don't know if this will help, but all that has worked really well for me. The weighted dips will definitely help too. Best of luck man.

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Old 12-10-2008, 01:42 AM   #402 (permalink)
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you should put dates on this.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:48 AM   #403 (permalink)
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To get a 250 lb 1rm at 180 pound body weight wasn't easy for me. Basically, all I did was vary it up. Sometimes I'd train it once a week, sometimes chest twice a week, sometimes three times a week, and sometimes I'd take a week off.

I know a lot of you shit on hypertrophy/volume/bodybuilding type schemes, but in order to gain strength, you have to gain size. I found the strength part & heavy singles a lot easier after I went through this phase and gained the mass I needed to progress.

Not that much help but that's just what works for me and how my body apparently responds. You know your shit, you'll be okay.
I agree size and strength go together, but I disagree that a bodybuilding/hypertrophy is the best way to go about it. I think the main thing is really eating and getting those calories. I also think sets of 5 are a good balance, for me at least, between size/strength. I'm also hitting the inclines on a higher rep scheme(8-12) for hypertrophy reasons.

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Wukka, when I reach a bench plateau I do power press (set the pins like 3" below lock out and then bench) and I can really jack the weight up and destroy my chest with those and it helps a lot with how you use your triceps while benching. And board presses, because it helps (for me) with the tricep and deltoid part of it. Also I do chest twice a week, one with like 5-10 sets of 3 reps and with 4x10 the high volume always seems to help. And- you wont believe this one, but pushups have always helped me, 2 sets to failure after youre done on chest. I busted the 225 plateau my freshmen year while I was at a military academy, so we did loads and loads of pushups, and I hit 245 about 3 weeks after I started. I don't know if this will help, but all that has worked really well for me. The weighted dips will definitely help too. Best of luck man.
Good advice. I don't have a power cage so I can't do the pin presses, but I'm definitely going to implement the push up advice. Cheers

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Old 12-10-2008, 02:23 PM   #404 (permalink)
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put what the date was when u did that day of training so i could go back to the beggining and see how far you have come in how long
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #405 (permalink)
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put what the date was when u did that day of training so i could go back to the beggining and see how far you have come in how long
Everything is already dated? You're confusing me
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my bad i read your first post and the date was bold so i thought every date was bold too. Good log to learn weights from witch is the one training I usally put aside
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:53 PM   #407 (permalink)
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my bad i read your first post and the date was bold so i thought every date was bold too. Good log to learn weights from witch is the one training I usally put aside
Ya the start of my log has some conditioning stuff in it too kinda... haven't really done any of that in a while though.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:05 PM   #408 (permalink)
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All my reps are paused. That is how one performs a bench press, no?

I think I'll try feet up Benching as you said.

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All my reps are paused. That is how one performs a bench press, no?

I think I'll try feet up Benching as you said.
I usually bench touch n go. Paused is definitely better though, and that's how you have to do it in a PL meet.
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:21 PM   #410 (permalink)
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Flat Bench
Barx10
84x5
128x5
161x5x5
**needed help on 5th rep of 5th set**

Dips
BW+44x5
BW+44x5
BW+44x5

Incline Bench
106x10
106x8 *help on 8th rep*
62x15

Push ups
BWx10
BWx10
BWx10

Weight: 162.5 pounds

*Today was ok. Not a great day, but not a bad day either
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