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post #151 of 319 (permalink) Old 04-06-2008, 04:50 PM Thread Starter
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i love all these posts ironman. i just recently found your logs and ive been reading all of them. i am not a fighter just yet, but i have been trying to get into it. all of your posts help alot. thanks
Glad you're liking it. Like I've said, if you have any questions then feel free to post 'em here or somewhere in the training forums.



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post #152 of 319 (permalink) Old 04-06-2008, 07:20 PM
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i have just two for now. do you know any good core exercises besides sit-ups and push-ups. i already do these ones and im looking for some variations to push myself harder. i would also like some information on some good circuit training that builds endurance and strength. keep in mind that the only equipment that i own is an elliptical machine and a smith machine with benchpress/squat, curls, tricep workouts, and an 8 pound medicine ball.

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i have just two for now. do you know any good core exercises besides sit-ups and push-ups. i already do these ones and im looking for some variations to push myself harder.
Yeah, I do.

Burpees are much better. So are pullups. There's a variation of the pullup that I list in the first couple of pages that works really well for the core, too.


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i would also like some information on some good circuit training that builds endurance and strength. keep in mind that the only equipment that i own is an elliptical machine and a smith machine with benchpress/squat, curls, tricep workouts, and an 8 pound medicine ball.
Yeah, this is actually less than what I use, for the most part, with the exception of my bag drills.

I tend to avoid machine based stuff, though it might be good if you want to try and do weights that are a little heavier than the weight of the opponent you're expecting.

The circuits I list at the beginning are pretty standard for me, and you should try those out, as they work pretty well.

Again, burpees and pullups are going to be the best bodyweight stuff that you can do, and I recommend doing alot of them. There's a situp variation in the log too, that I've been using, that you might want to check out if you aren't satisfied with normal situps.



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cool thanks alot for all the help
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i still have to "spread some rep around" otherwise you'd be repped after each post ironman. I'm down to 214 lbs and practiced cutting weight over the weekend.. I cut 6 lbs just sweating (no laxatives or anything) but I was noticeably tired the next day despite my fluid/carb intake after I cut the weight. Anyway, if I keep losing weight like this I should have no problem making the 190-199 division.

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i still have to "spread some rep around" otherwise you'd be repped after each post ironman. I'm down to 214 lbs and practiced cutting weight over the weekend.. I cut 6 lbs just sweating (no laxatives or anything) but I was noticeably tired the next day despite my fluid/carb intake after I cut the weight. Anyway, if I keep losing weight like this I should have no problem making the 190-199 division.

thanks for the advice
Glad to hear that you're feeling good about the cut, and I'm glad that you tried to make it. I'm sure it'll do well for you.

Like I said, just keep losing weight and practice the cuts. That's how you get good, practice. Eventually you'll be cool with that tiredness, and it'll be easier to cope with.

Don't do the whole laxative thing for six pounds. That's too much. You should be fine with just sweat-weight.



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what amount of weight is good to cut before any event that will have the least impact in your performance? im about 173 right now and with diet and exercise i should get down to a solid 165 could i possibly drop the 10 pounds to fight at 155?
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what amount of weight is good to cut before any event that will have the least impact in your performance? im about 173 right now and with diet and exercise i should get down to a solid 165 could i possibly drop the 10 pounds to fight at 155?
I am sure Ironman will give you more but i will outline a few pointers here for you.

I suggest you do some trial weight cuts and see for yourself. We can't be sure if you can drop the extra 10 pounds because we don't know what your body is like etc.

I suggest you do trial weight cuts and find how you feel and how you went and also what did you feel most comfortable at.


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what amount of weight is good to cut before any event that will have the least impact in your performance? im about 173 right now and with diet and exercise i should get down to a solid 165 could i possibly drop the 10 pounds to fight at 155?
Judoka and I have talked about this alot, and he makes some very good points, so I suggest checking them out.

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I am sure Ironman will give you more but i will outline a few pointers here for you.

I suggest you do some trial weight cuts and see for yourself. We can't be sure if you can drop the extra 10 pounds because we don't know what your body is like etc.

I suggest you do trial weight cuts and find how you feel and how you went and also what did you feel most comfortable at.
Again, I can't emphasize how important it is to feel comfortable with your weight cut. I've said it to everyone who's asked me again and again and again, and I tell it to the adults I train with that are thinking about doing it.

Your first time cutting weight should not be right before competition. That's not the time to be experimenting with that, because it will drain you and it will really hurt you in competition if you do it wrong (and it'll still hurt a little if you do it right).

A ten pound weight cut at your size isn't serious. I usually tell guys that they should stay below cutting 10% of their bodyweight, and you're doing that, so you're well within the guidelines I usually set for guys.

I suggest losing as much weight as you can first, and if you think you're going to be down to 165, that's great. I think that, if you really want to do this weight cut the best way as possible, you should set a goal to get as low as you can before the cut, so that you are, ideally, cutting less than you think you will have to now. (it makes the weight cut that much easier come competition time)

Be aware that you are going to have to work for the cut. You are going to have to fast, you're going to have to sweat and you're going to have to work for it. Alot of guys see wrestler do it and they think that cutting weight is easy, but that's a load of crap. It's work.

Like I said, try it in the gym and see how much you can cut in certain amounts of time, understanding how much time and what kind of resources you'll have at the competition. You may not have a sauna when you get there, and if you were using one back home, then that'll suck. Make sure that you have control of your environment when you get there, and bring the trashbags, the distilled water and that kind of stuff with you. Preparedness is most important.

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