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Old 08-14-2010, 05:48 PM   #101 (permalink)
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You should talk to your strength trainer about learning olympic lifts, they have really solid carryover to applicable MMA strength. I know you didn't ask for it, but IMO, even just doing clean pulls and snatch pulls would help out. It seems like you are switching to more of a body building style of weight training, which, will certainly improve your looks but there are much better ways to strength train for MMA than that. Just my 2 cents, keep up the solid work.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:47 PM   #102 (permalink)
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You should talk to your strength trainer about learning olympic lifts, they have really solid carryover to applicable MMA strength. I know you didn't ask for it, but IMO, even just doing clean pulls and snatch pulls would help out. It seems like you are switching to more of a body building style of weight training, which, will certainly improve your looks but there are much better ways to strength train for MMA than that. Just my 2 cents, keep up the solid work.
Thanks. I was previously doing olympic lifts but my goal these two months to to gain ~10lbs of muscle and making good progress so far. I want to be able to cut ~10lbs of water weight pre-fight instead of just fighting at my natural 170. I get a lot of my explosive training and conditioning from my conditioning coach 1-2 times a week currently. After this 2 month cycle I will be going back to explosive olympic lifts and step back away from power lifting and mass building.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:58 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Thanks. I was previously doing olympic lifts but my goal these two months to to gain ~10lbs of muscle and making good progress so far. I want to be able to cut ~10lbs of water weight pre-fight instead of just fighting at my natural 170. I get a lot of my explosive training and conditioning from my conditioning coach 1-2 times a week currently. After this 2 month cycle I will be going back to explosive olympic lifts and step back away from power lifting and mass building.
Oh alright, that makes a lot of sense.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:09 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Thanks. I was previously doing olympic lifts but my goal these two months to to gain ~10lbs of muscle and making good progress so far. I want to be able to cut ~10lbs of water weight pre-fight instead of just fighting at my natural 170. I get a lot of my explosive training and conditioning from my conditioning coach 1-2 times a week currently. After this 2 month cycle I will be going back to explosive olympic lifts and step back away from power lifting and mass building.
Nothing in your workout regime resembles anything close to power lifting. Cable curls? Lol. And seriously for your own good...drop the smith box it's for girls and old/injured people and do some real ATG back BB squats for mass gaining.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:13 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Nothing in your workout regime resembles anything close to power lifting. Cable curls? Lol. And seriously for your own good...drop the smith box it's for girls and old/injured people and do some real ATG back BB squats for mass gaining.
Read his whole log, he is training pretty intelligently for his goals, with a little hypertrophy accessory work. It is a pretty proven way to pack on muscle. It is not how I train, but if it works, then what is the problem?
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:42 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Read his whole log, he is training pretty intelligently for his goals, with a little hypertrophy accessory work. It is a pretty proven way to pack on muscle. It is not how I train, but if it works, then what is the problem?
Considering his pictures looked like he hasn't touched a barbell in his life, I don't think they are working.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:44 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Read his whole log, he is training pretty intelligently for his goals, with a little hypertrophy accessory work. It is a pretty proven way to pack on muscle. It is not how I train, but if it works, then what is the problem?
My strength trainer has a ton of experience training athletes but most of his experience is body building. I really like how he mixes up different training methods to achieve the training goals. Before I started training with him I never would of thought about doing cable chest presses or bicep curls but I love how they hit multiple muscle groups instead of pure isolation which is bad for athletic training.

My new leg workout which is extremely hypertrophy specific is awesome. Also on the note of HST one of the most well know and world renown Olympic strength trainers swears by hypertrophy and invented German Volume Training.

In the end there are 100 different ways to skin a cat and different people respond to different training methods.

As for me not doing a lot of bench presses it is a lot easier and safer on my left should which had a bankart reconstruction a few years back. There is still a little bit of instability and the strength in it isn't equal to my right shoulder but we are working on it.

As for you Halloway... You need to get a ******* clue and seriously troll somewhere else. Stop filling my training log with your shitty attempts at trolling. Every post of yours is a negative response to someone.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:53 AM   #108 (permalink)
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My strength trainer has a ton of experience training athletes but most of his experience is body building. I really like how he mixes up different training methods to achieve the training goals. Before I started training with him I never would of thought about doing cable chest presses or bicep curls but I love how they hit multiple muscle groups instead of pure isolation which is bad for athletic training.

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I had no idea a bicep curl was a compound movement. Another thing learned from mroutdoorsman
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Considering his pictures looked like he hasn't touched a barbell in his life, I don't think they are working.
Stop taking shots at another poster. I'm politely asking you to leave this thread now, as you clearly have nothing constructive to add.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:26 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Stop taking shots at another poster. I'm politely asking you to leave this thread now, as you clearly have nothing constructive to add.
My post was constructive criticism I don't know what you're talking about.
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