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Old 08-15-2010, 01:43 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Old 08-15-2010, 04:00 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I had no idea a bicep curl was a compound movement. Another thing learned from mroutdoorsman

Read more Dave Tate then before you keep talking about something you no nothing about. If you question Dave Tate then you are more ridiculous than I thought. Even a leg curl can be a compound exercise if you are squeezing with your hands, working the forearm...
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Old 08-15-2010, 04:14 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Read more Dave Tate then before you keep talking about something you no nothing about. If you question Dave Tate then you are more ridiculous than I thought.
Since I do like to educate... The cable bicep curl is most definitely a compound movement.

Everything the movement hits is as follows:

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* Biceps Brachii

Synergists
* Brachialis
* Brachioradialis

Stabilizers
* Deltoid, Anterior
* Trapezius, Upper & Middle
* Levator Scapulae
* Wrist Flexors

Those list are just for the arms. As with most standing cable exercises there is some tension put on the core also especially if you take a step or two away from the cable machine.
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:01 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Thanks for the rep Swpthleg! I wish people would ask more questions or give some actual constructive criticism more often :P Maybe I should start posting more detailed logs of my martial arts training and explanations of bag drills etc to help more on the fighting instead of conditioning side. Obviously with no change to how I still post my conditioning logs.
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:30 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Thanks for the rep Swpthleg! I wish people would ask more questions or give some actual constructive criticism more often :P Maybe I should start posting more detailed logs of my martial arts training and explanations of bag drills etc to help more on the fighting instead of conditioning side. Obviously with no change to how I still post my conditioning logs.
That would be extremely helpful. I love heavy bag drills, and I'm always looking for new combinations and sets of combinations to string together. My gym has those ergonomic GnP bags that help to make an amazing circuit workout, esp. when you add in pad work/kick shield drills.
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Old 08-16-2010, 12:45 AM   #116 (permalink)
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Read more Dave Tate then before you keep talking about something you no nothing about. If you question Dave Tate then you are more ridiculous than I thought. Even a leg curl can be a compound exercise if you are squeezing with your hands, working the forearm...
If you are seriously trying to tell me that curls are compound movements then you guys are farther gone than I thought. And lol @ the leg curls while squeezing your hands.

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Since I do like to educate... The cable bicep curl is most definitely a compound movement.

Everything the movement hits is as follows:

Target
* Biceps Brachii

Synergists
* Brachialis
* Brachioradialis

Stabilizers
* Deltoid, Anterior
* Trapezius, Upper & Middle
* Levator Scapulae
* Wrist Flexors

Those list are just for the arms. As with most standing cable exercises there is some tension put on the core also especially if you take a step or two away from the cable machine.
Wow. Alright, for one, a compound movement is defined as as an exercise that moves the body through more that one joint of movement. Say a squat, which bends you at your ankles knees waist and hips. Now curls on the other hand..not so much. It's been fun teaching you and all, but I think you should look into another strength coach as your current one hasn't even taught you the basics.

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Old 08-16-2010, 01:23 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:27 AM   #118 (permalink)
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And on the subject of Dave Tate, as suprised as I am that a gym rat such as yourself even knows who he is, maybe you should get your information straight. He's never been a fan of bicep training, and believes "tris for guys, curls for girls" and states cables aren't very productive for biceps.

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Old 08-16-2010, 10:57 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Wow. Alright, for one, a compound movement is defined as as an exercise that moves the body through more that one joint of movement. Say a squat, which bends you at your ankles knees waist and hips. Now curls on the other hand..not so much. It's been fun teaching you and all, but I think you should look into another strength coach as your current one hasn't even taught you the basics.
To correct you once again a compound lift or exercise is one that hits more than one muscle group at a time, 3 or more preferred. That being said doing a cable curl hits the biceps, forearms, traps, and even the delts some. As you would notice all of which were listed above. But just to make you happy bicep cable curls also makes the wrists move just so you can get multi-joint there.
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:18 PM   #120 (permalink)
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To correct you once again a compound lift or exercise is one that hits more than one muscle group at a time, 3 or more preferred. That being said doing a cable curl hits the biceps, forearms, traps, and even the delts some. As you would notice all of which were listed above. But just to make you happy bicep cable curls also makes the wrists move just so you can get multi-joint there.
Maybe you should look at some real definitions instead of pulling more shit out of your ass. And if your wrists are moving then you are doing it wrong. A cable curl is not a compound movement it's isolation. I don't know how much more clear I or anyone else can get.
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