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Old 03-13-2007, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im interested in peoples opinions of how much force to use during training, and what to do with the punks who go hell for leather.

Ive always been taught (in Muay Thai at least) to use 100$ speed, 50% power when training, sparring etc with gym mates.

Ive since started BJJ and found there are quite a few people who go hard core all the time. And use dirty nasty tricks on the mat.

example: knuckles under the spine when on top.

I feel there is no real need for this in the gym. In comp, yes!

Not long ago this punk starts drilling up and crush moves with me. He goes hard core trying to crack my damn rib cage.

Now he wasnt doing it out of spite, he just seemed to like the idea of going hard. ( he was far more experienced than myself, and should have gotten over this by now)

I warned him a few times jokingly that he needs to chill out....

Now im no wimp, I like training hard, but 80+kg's driving their elbow into your solar plexus (sp?) at full force farking hurts, especially by number 30.

so anyway, he doesnt let up. So I think, fark this guy, and i start giving it back. 10 minutes later hes sitting on the side of the mat clutching his ribs like a girl unable to stand up.

Now things could have been different. It could have been me with the injured ribs missing training for a couple weeks.

I know its probably not the best way to deal with people like this, but i did warn him.

What are you guys opinions and thoughts on dealing with the guys that have no control and dont listen.

Hurt em back before they hurt you further?
Go running to coach like a girl?
Pay someone to take him out after class one night?
Avoid pairing up with him in future?

I think people should have a little more respect for the other guy. No one likes getting injured and missing training. You need to find that right balance.

Theres no need to lock that arm bar on at 100% in the gymn is there?!?1
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Old 03-13-2007, 07:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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when sparring at kickboxing, we generally go by the rule: if someone is hitting you to hard, hit them back harder(usually they learn their lesson after that). So i suppose what you did is justified, however you may have gone a little to far if injured him so bad you caused him to miss training for a couple weeks. I woulda suggested doing the same thing he was doing to you (not hard enough to cause serious damage, but hard enough so that he realizes what he's doing and chills).
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