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post #51 of 71 (permalink) Old 04-14-2007, 01:08 PM
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Well I'm not a big Judo guy, I used to do it when i was really small and am trying to get back into it again, so this is prolly gonna sound stupid, but maybe you could for a soto makikomi? I've tried it and its actually pretty quick to learn, and it seems like you could take a pretty heavy guy with that. What belt is he?
makikomi=fat boy throw, but it is good with nice impact control to follow up with an arm bar, one guy on the team uses this one all the time, and his opponets always walk off holding their arm, real fast combo.

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makikomi=fat boy throw, but it is good with nice impact control to follow up with an arm bar, one guy on the team uses this one all the time, and his opponets always walk off holding their arm, real fast combo.
It's not a fat boy throw. I've used it plenty of times and I've seen it used in Olympic and World championships before. You just see a lot of tubby people use it because there doesn't have to be a lot of squatting and lifting involved.
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It's not a fat boy throw. I've used it plenty of times and I've seen it used in Olympic and World championships before. You just see a lot of tubby people use it because there doesn't have to be a lot of squatting and lifting involved.
hahaha. by your defense i see i am not the first to say this..... sorry .

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If you do BJJ and he doesn't, he shouldn't stand a chance on the ground. With standing, I'd think of a double/single leg take down, meaning you don't let him grab your lepel so he can't use his Judo throws.

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If you do BJJ and he doesn't, he shouldn't stand a chance on the ground. With standing, I'd think of a double/single leg take down, meaning you don't let him grab your lepel so he can't use his Judo throws.
Its harder to move away from someone than you may think...plys you can do Judo throws without the other guy wearing a gi.


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yea true. problem with single and double legs is i know for a fact he has wrestling experience=sprawls.

and as i said before on the ground i know i can beat him its just getting him on the ground thats problematic
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when i first started judo i was not confident in throws i turn into, so i would have the worst timing and turn into the throw when i had major space between him and i. my sensei taught me a 2 on 1 cross grip, into an arm drag as i step behind, keeping his hand down at his knee, setting me to throw with a ura nage, yoko guruma, sukui nage. you have many options once in this position, and for him to attack you his only chance would be an ankle pick if you stay planted for too long.

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yea true. problem with single and double legs is i know for a fact he has wrestling experience=sprawls.

and as i said before on the ground i know i can beat him its just getting him on the ground thats problematic
If he's got a good sprawl, I'd work the legs like I mentioned in one of my previous posts. He'll think that's your only game. Once he's wise to your sweeps or leg picks, drop waaayyy under him for a drop seoi nage after a leg attack. Remember that your setup attack has to be convincing or he won't react enough to set up the real throw.
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so i faced the big guyu today in the semis of our little tournament thing.. and heres how it went..

we started out standing and i circled him for a few.. then i got my grip and was using my left hand to hold his off. right when he got his right hand grip i went for a drop murotei and almost threw him but he kinda just went over to my side. he then stood up so we got back to our feet. after a bout a minute of setting up grips and failed throw attempts he went and tried a hip throw but i landed funny so he got i think a quarter of a point. we stood back up and then again worked on grips.. he was pressing his head against my shoulder like wrestlers do and i was realizing my throws werent working so i grabbed his head put him in a guillatine and pulled guard. however my guillatine was not working well so after about 5 seconds i released it. he then went for a gi choke on me but i wasnt having any of it then he tried to pass my guard. i used my arm to grab his sleeve to prevent him from getting his arm completely around my leg.
once he got his arm in my leg i immediately opened my guard and applied a triangle. i had the triangle in and was working to pull his arm across but he just leaned forward and put all his weight on me to prevent me from rotating. my left nut was starting to get smashed to i grabbed his arm, brought my left leg around his head and submitted him with an arm bar...

brought him down a notch or two
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Nice, very nice
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