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Dutch Master 07-09-2007 01:29 PM

Lifting Soreness extended.....
 
For some reason soreness seems to last longer on me than usual.

I'm ready to jump back on the wagon and really take this lifting thing serious again. Usually, the first two weeks are horrible. Even to a point where I have to skip a few days to recover, and that usually messes with not only my schedule that I put in place, but with my sleep and eating habits.

When i try to just stay on schedule working out usually becomes a straight up torture session, which usually ends up with me quitting early, or just getting more sore.

I can't tell youhow many 2 weeks there have been in the last 3-4 years. It's just getting annoying. But I understand that it's no pain, no gain. In high school I wrestled at 185, and I was max benching 195, and now my max is at about 160. I still have some muscle mass but I just want to get it back in top shape like it was a few years ago.

I know some of you are way past this phase, but if you can go way back and try to remember how you overcame the "hump", and if there are any easy ways to do it.

How can I get past these next two weeks without feeling like sh*t afterwards? Should I start really small? Drink lots of water? Take cold showers? Pray to the weightlifting Gods?

Any advice?

TheNegation 07-09-2007 01:37 PM

Well, how much do you know about weight training?
Are you warming up? Are you cooling down? Are you making sure not to exercise the same muscles two days in a row?

Dutch Master 07-09-2007 01:43 PM

Yup. All that has been taken into consideration. Warming up is pretty pointless for me. Same with stretching. I always thought of it as a myth, and this was confirmed by my weightlifting coach.

And I usually work back and tri's one day. Bi's and chest the other. I'll deadlift every other day, and I throw in a mix on shoulders every other day that I don't deadlift.

100 Situps and push-ups every morning, and that's pretty much the only thing keeping me in any shape at all these days haha.

TheNegation 07-09-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch Master
Yup. All that has been taken into consideration. Warming up is pretty pointless for me. Same with stretching. I always thought of it as a myth, and this was confirmed by my weightlifting coach.

Wait now a second....a weightlifting coach told you warming up and stretching is a myth?

KnockinUout 07-09-2007 02:10 PM

If I dont stretch and warm up on the bad my lifting and any excersise is shot. The only thing I can put together is your eating or drinking water. Either eat better or take a supplement. I lift for an hour and a half everyother day and also run and all that. I have been doing it for a month and I havnt had any soreness last more than 2 days. My muscles are sore for 1 day then I had a shoulder pain from hitting the bag to hard. Whats your diet schedule and all that. Maybe someone will see whats happening, Or maybe your bed is not letting you get good rest.

Dutch Master 07-09-2007 02:30 PM

Yeah I was a told by my wrestling/weightlifting coach that stretching was a myth. I've read bout it in other places, too. And I never really thought twice about it. I mean without stretching I was pressing 200 pounds in High School. Same when I played basketball and wretled. I just never stretched, I just thought it was a waste of time.

Don't crucify me, I might be wrong here, and I'm fine with being wrong.

My nutrition is pretty good. I mean it could be better, but for the most part I eat healthy and limit carb intake by about 80%.

I take the GNC mega man multi everyday, once at breakfast and once at dinnertime. I also take a calcium tablet twice a day. When I work out I usually take take 60 grams of protein that day with 2% milk, and I don't take the calcium pill fo rthat reason.

You think maybe I'm starting too heavy? I mean I'm pressing 100 lbs, and curling 50 lbs on one day, and by the next day I'm in agony. It's just an ordinary set too.

The only thing I'll admit is I don't drink water more than usual everyday. I usually drink a little less than the "8 Glass a day" minumum. Not sure if there is a link to soreness with that, but I've never found one.

I just know that some people, and friends just don't get sore like I do. It's not that I don't want to work out, it's just that the soreness is just too bad and it really gets the motivation to continue down. Into the third week I'm still sore, and it just keeps getting worse.

TheNegation 07-09-2007 02:44 PM

Ok, warming up and stretchig is mandatory, that coach was retarded.
It won't allow you to lift heavier or anything like that, it prevents you from injuring yourself.

I can't help you other than that. I never really get sore or feel like quitting. I had to stop weight training for about 6 months recently and I had no problem getting back into it. Sorry.

Dutch Master 07-09-2007 02:58 PM

Actually he was a great coach, and there are definately studies out there that suggest that stretching ISN'T mandatory. It's just that we have always been told that it was a must so it's charred into our heads. My bet is if you google "Stretching myths" you'd be pretty surprised with what you find.

I really don't have a cure for it as well. Regardless, I'm going to dive in head first and see what happens. I'll try to work around the soreness, but we'll see if it eventually starts to at least plateau.

wukkadb 07-09-2007 03:22 PM

Stretch after you work out

KnockinUout 07-09-2007 03:26 PM

Well you havnt stretched for your workouts and now your sore, I think that is something to think about. Like stated it wont help you lift more but it will prevent your muscles from well, being as sore as they are right now. Plus the water thing is a huge problem. If your training you should have an easy gallon a day. Maybe your not lifting right?? If you havnt noticed any gains or anything then you might have a problem. After 2 weeks I upped my weight cause the old weight wasnt enough. Have you noticed any gains or are you just getting pure soreness.


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