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post #21 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-07-2007, 03:34 AM
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i said i wanted to gain functional strength, and Shogun_is_Champ recommened the 5x5 programmes and said he was assuming i wanted to gain mass, not strength which i dont.
now your saying the opposite? :S
5x5 is for strength, not mass. you can trust him if you want but i wouldn't recommend it




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Couldent have said it better. Repped
You must have missed my response proving him wrong lol

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". Increase Strength Through Powerlifting

Your muscles respond to training in three ways. When you train with high reps (more than 15), there is an increase in endurance with no substantive improvement in size or strength. The six to twelve rep range - the range that all big bodybuilders rely on - promotes an increase in both size and strength. Powerlifters generally stay with low reps, two to four per set, which supplements strength with slight variances in size.

However, if you set aside one week of training to pile on the weights with low reps the subsequent improvement in strength will make you stronger when you return to the six to twelve rep routine. Here's the formula: More strength equals more tension on the muscle equals more growth. "

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The article you're citing focuses on small, quick things you can do to build muscle mass, right? One of which would be #9 - Increase Strength Through Powerlifting; the particular section of the article that you decided to quote.

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"However, if you set aside one week of training (the time in which you're 'quickly' building mass) to pile on the weights with low reps the subsequent improvement in strength will make you stronger when you return to the six to twelve rep routine."

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The article you're citing focuses on small, quick things you can do to build muscle mass, right? One of which would be #9 - Increase Strength Through Powerlifting; the particular section of the article that you decided to quote.

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"However, if you set aside one week of training (the time in which you're 'quickly' building mass) to pile on the weights with low reps the subsequent improvement in strength will make you stronger when you return to the six to twelve rep routine."

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Maybe you have some comprehension problems or something, but how would that make me fail? Please re-read what I posted man. I don't want to argue, I want to just stop you from believing false things. I'm going to write a large post about this when I get home, because obviously some people are mis informed. The reason they say do powerlifting to improve mass is that doing heavy sets with low reps(2-4) increases strength as well as mass, however, doing reps of 6-12 increases mass MORE. HOwever, if you can lift 120 lbs 10 times, instead of 100 lbs 10 times, you will gain more mass. They are just suggesting taking time off of the 6-12 rep scheme to increase your numbers(by lifting heavy with LOW reps) which will enable you to be able to lift MORE weight for 6-12 reps, resulting in more mass.

"Powerlifters generally stay with low reps, two to four per set, which supplements strength with slight variances in size."

Do you not know what "slight variances" means?




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This is how you get big muscles that can exert lots of force for short periods of time.

I personally havent tried this method but, I have heard of success stories of increasing strength. but.... increased strength that burns out quickly.



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