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Old 09-29-2007, 04:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It does. Google might help you.


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I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So if i take whey pritein i should take is after my workout?
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes.

but remember, there are more important factors than what kind of protein you have after you workout determining muscle growth.
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I dont want a huge amount of growth.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I think he just means that you can't depend on your supplements as much as your workout routine, diet, lifestyle, etc.
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I dont want a huge amount of growth.
you, most likely, wouldn't grow huge even if you tried.

question is, do you want to become bigger or not?

are you going to cross the bridge? or just stay at one end and lick the rail?

you need clear goals if you want to reach them.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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hey guys. i work at a supplement store- a national chain- which im certain everyone knows. i don't believe i have the right to name them as I am giving advice outside their typical guidelines- but here goes:

protein isolate is one of the most effective proteins available. it is more expensive, but it is the fastest absorbed.

concentrate will deliver a large amount of protein, but it may not all be used.

look for a supplement that contains a combination of the two plus protein from from eggs. isolate+ egg protein will give you immediate absorbtion followed by a slower absorbing protein. this is one of the more effective methods. Optimum Nutrition provides a well rounded blend and Isopure is an excellent whey isolate which also provides about 50% of most vitamins.

in regards to soy- soy protein can be used exclusively as a supplement. there are now soy isolates available that work very similar to whey isolates and are absorbed at nearly the same rate.

another key thing to note with whey protein is that you want to be sure they contain added lactase to help digest the extra lactose the whey contains.
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I think he just means that you can't depend on your supplements as much as your workout routine, diet, lifestyle, etc.
very true. supplements are just that: they supplement a healthy, regular routine and diet. they just fill in the gaps
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Soy is a complete (all the essential amino acids for growth) source of protein.

It's not prefered because many people believe it can act as estrogen in the human body. I personally am mixed but have eaten a bit of soy my entire life and have most of a beard, extremely deep voice, and gain muscle very easily @ 19. So I doubt that to an extent.
I wouldn't recommend loading up on it though.

Soy does act like estrogen in the body. however, what few people realize is that when you have a rise in estrogen, your body will automatically raise it's testosterone. Vice versa, if you take a testosterone booster- your estrogen will automatically rise to match it to keep your body in homeostasis (or balance). so if you take a testosterone booster you also need an estrogen blocker.
what i'm saying is, dont avoid soy for fear of an estrogen increase. there is an increase, which is negligible at best, and is immediately countered by a rise in testosterone.
something else to consider is that soy is lower in cholesterol than whey and egg products.
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