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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
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hi everyone i was wondering is there much of a difference between soya protein and normal protein? What type of protein would you recommend?

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whey protein is nice.

there is afew new kinds of synthetic whey protein, which are more easily used and absorbed by ur body.

ask at your local GNC.



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Soy is a complete (all the essential amino acids for growth) source of protein.

It's not prefered because many people believe it can act as estrogen in the human body. I personally am mixed but have eaten a bit of soy my entire life and have most of a beard, extremely deep voice, and gain muscle very easily @ 19. So I doubt that to an extent.
I wouldn't recommend loading up on it though.


The best protein sources are real food. lean cuts of meat, seafood, dairy, eggs etc


Whey is a fast absorbing protein source. Hence why it's used post workout.

Casein which like whey is also derived from milk is a slow disgesting protein and is best used @ bedtime. Since you'll be on an 8 hour fast.



Unless you're vegan, and then mix in hemp protein and you'll have to combine protein sources, stick with whey and casein mostly.

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Sounds like whey is da way to go. I will give it a try. please feel free to give ur opoins.
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What do you mean by normal protein? I'm not too knowledgable about soy protein but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with absorption rates. I know this is true for whey vs casein and other types of protein, but I'm not sure about soy. Whey does absorb into your body immediately, whereas protein in eggs takes about 2-4 hours, and casein absorbs slowly into your body over a 5-7 hour period. What are you looking for in a protein? My number one suggestion would be whey protein but casein protein is an excellent source too, especially before bed or upon waking up.




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I only like whey post workout. Why? It spikes insulin, is expensive, tends to bloat some people and it passes too quickly through our gut, so not all is available for absorption.

Soy protein? I don't like it. Just find out what works for you.

Normal protein? Guessing you mean Egg protein/Casein/Protein from animal sources. yes, doesn't get better, just ensure variety for a wide amino spectrum.
horses for courses, whey post workout, "normal protein" for everything else.



wukkadb, casein isolate does not get absorbed slower than cooked egg protein. you heard that casein was the slowest and best before bed protein ever FROM THE CASEIN PROTEIN DUDES.
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I only like whey post workout. Why? It spikes insulin, is expensive, tends to bloat some people and it passes too quickly through our gut, so not all is available for absorption.

Soy protein? I don't like it. Just find out what works for you.

Normal protein? Guessing you mean Egg protein/Casein/Protein from animal sources. yes, doesn't get better, just ensure variety for a wide amino spectrum.
horses for courses, whey post workout, "normal protein" for everything else.



wukkadb, casein isolate does not get absorbed slower than cooked egg protein. you heard that casein was the slowest and best before bed protein ever FROM THE CASEIN PROTEIN DUDES.
Whey doesn't spike insulin. Show me proof, it doesn't exist.

Glucose spikes insulin. Many people take dextrose, maltadexrin (sp) as they are the fastest ways to replenish MUSCLE glycogen post workout. Fructose replenishes liver glycogen, not muscle.

Soy is fine in moderate amounts.

Also, different brands will bloat some, the same brand protein supp will be great for someone else.

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wukkadb, casein isolate does not get absorbed slower than cooked egg protein. you heard that casein was the slowest and best before bed protein ever FROM THE CASEIN PROTEIN DUDES.
Do you have any sources to back this up? I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure that eggs absorb faster than casein protein.




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Yes I do,

An Original Research from Human Kinetics:
"Issues of Dietary Protein Intake in Humans" written by Bilsborough and Mann
states this:

Protein Source : Absorption Rate

Egg protein : 2.8 g/h
Casien isolate : 6.1 g/h

grams per hour
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Whey doesn't spike insulin.
It does. Google might help you.

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Fructose replenishes liver glycogen, not muscle.
will be converted if needed.
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