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Old 10-03-2007, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who has experience cutting weight?

I'm participating in NAGA Vegas at the end of the month. Unlike Jiu Jitsu comps where weigh-ins are before the match, NAGA allows weigh-ins the night before.

I'm currently about 178-180 lbs., which is at the top of the Middleweight class. My plan is to cut down to the Welterweight class, about 8-10 pounds.

I lose water FAST. I swear that I sweat more than anyone I've seen during boxing class. I weighed in prior to JJ (not as intense as boxing) today at 180. After class, I weighed 177 3/4 even though I drank about 3/4 liter of water during the class.

What methods have you used to cut weight? My plan is to try a cut this weekend by ONLY laying off liquids all Sunday. I'll check my weight loss and if I have a few pounds to go, I'll rehydrate and try again the next week, adding exercise to the water fast. I'm going to use progressively more drastic methods to find what works for my body. What do you think of this plan? Any recommendations?
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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losing 8-10 pounds of water is not a good idea lol

2-3 pounds off a week...
guessing you want to retain as much muscle mass as possible?
just nail your diet and do steady low-moderate intensity cardio for about 40 minutes on empty stomach in the morning (empty = nothing but water, taking caffeine tablets before gives better results) - if so, post your diet here.
if you're 2 pounds off or so moments before you can do the sauna

or basically just stay in calorie deficit. a 4000-10000 calorie deficit a week is a rough estimate of what you need to do to lose 2-3 pounds.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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losing 8-10 pounds of water is not a good idea lol

2-3 pounds off a week...
guessing you want to retain as much muscle mass as possible?
just nail your diet and do steady low-moderate intensity cardio for about 40 minutes on empty stomach in the morning (empty = nothing but water, taking caffeine tablets before gives better results) - if so, post your diet here.
if you're 2 pounds off or so moments before you can do the sauna

or basically just stay in calorie deficit. a 4000-10000 calorie deficit a week is a rough estimate of what you need to do to lose 2-3 pounds.

What you're talking about is a healthy way to lose weight over a long period of time. He wants to lose 10 pound the night before a competition and gain probably 6-8 of it back by comp. time.

Its apples and oranges.

For sove, I'd say the best way to do it is a good suana work out. Shadow boxing and punching exercises are the best way to work the weight off in the suana. Also, run 10-20 minutes, and then do your suana work, then run 10-20 minutes, and so forth.

For 8-10 pounds, it shouldn't take you more than 3 hours doing it this way, judging from the sound of how you lose water.

It'd be best to do it over a 3 day period if you have time.

You'll want to cut your diet in half 2 days out from the weigh in, and attempt to cut about 3 pounds. The next day, cut the diet from the previous day in half...you'll probably be dehydrated enough to only lose 1 pound, but don't get discouraged. You're just setting up the day of the weigh in.

The day of the weigh in...all you need to do is the running and shadow boxing suana workout I mentioned above and you'll make weight easy.



The three day loss will be less of a shock to your body and system, and you'll still be able to gain 6-8 of the pounds back and you'll probably have the strength advantage in your competition. Good luck bud.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What you're talking about is a healthy way to lose weight over a long period of time. He wants to lose 10 pound the night before a competition and gain probably 6-8 of it back by comp. time.
yup. easy way, no uncertainty.
your way is interesting. sounds risky though as it is mentally difficult and he hasn't done it before.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm extremely lean as it is, so diet isn't going to have a huge effect. Yes, I'm talking about dropping weight for weigh-ins and then putting it back on for the next day.

After JJ and KB classes today I'm already down to 176. It shouldn't be much of an effort to drop the last 6.

Unfortunately, my gym doesn't have a sauna. I'll have to see how much it costs to use another gym for the day.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yup. easy way, no uncertainty.
your way is interesting. sounds risky though as it is mentally difficult and he hasn't done it before.
Yeah but this is the best way to have a weight advantage going into a fight. Of course its not healthy for you, but with a day between the weigh in and competition, he has more than enough time to rehydrate. Fighters do this all the time.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah but this is the best way to have a weight advantage going into a fight. Of course its not healthy for you, but with a day between the weigh in and competition, he has more than enough time to rehydrate. Fighters do this all the time.
I know a lot of people say size doesn't matter in JJ, but at the novice level I think it can be a big factor. I've been focusing on using as much of my weigh as possible while rolling, regardless of the weight of my opponent and it has done wonders for my JJ game. Thank god for wrestling drills on Fridays!

I'm going into this competition unwilling to settle for anything less than the best possible effort I can muster. Since I have the option of weighing in the night before, I think I'd be disappointed in myself if I didn't use it.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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yup. easy way, no uncertainty.
your way is interesting. sounds risky though as it is mentally difficult and he hasn't done it before.
If it starts to get too mentally difficult, you should act like Corey Hill in the sauna. That guy was great.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If it starts to get too mentally difficult, you should act like Corey Hill in the sauna. That guy was great.
Hilarious. That's exactly what I was thinking last night!

Without using a sauna I got down to 173.5 last night. I'm definitely not worried about cutting now. I might try a sauna next week. I want to go into this knowing exactly how my body is going to handle it. Going to JJ and then a KB class and then not drinking water until 10pm was not much fun and I still had 3.6 pounds to go.
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Yeah with the way you're able to cut weight, you may even wanna think about bulking up. I'm assuming you already do a weight lifting regime, but add about 1,000 calories to your daily diet and put on about 5 pounds. It sounds like you can afford it and still cut the weight.

Weight and strength advantage still is a big help in BJJ, especially at the beginner or intermediate levels.
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