i totally understand. i research my vitamins and supplements thoroughly. if it is not a whole food vitamin or if you are seeing things like (Niacinamide, Thiamin, etc) then you arent getting them from a natural source.
as far as arthritis goes, nothing really helps except white willow bark extract (a natural version of aspirin) and pot. no joke. pot makes the small aches and pains melt away. i had an article that backed it up but i have no idea where it is right now and i am disinclined to look for it.
i actually have a thread somewhere else on this forum discussing the value of natural vs. lab produced supplements and nutrition. the body usues natural sources better because they natural sources are more bioavailable than the chemically derived versions. check out my thread and contribute to this discussion there, so we dont take up too much space on the TOTD thread.
my thread- discussion nutrition, supplementation in addition to low cal diets. all discussion of nutrition/ supplementation welcome (http://www.mmaforum.com/mma-training...your-diet.html
thanks for the input guys!