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post #21 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-05-2007, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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ok guys, im still a massive noob but what about this plan? please pick me apart if anything is wrong. I could be completely wrong about this :P but remember I am a hard gainer trying to gain weight, and thats the goal of this plan

ok but what do you think of this plan? obviously I wont follow it PERFECTLY everyday, but If I stay consistent what do you think? Also is it fine to take the 3 tablets a day?

6 Meals a day plan

Morning
Eat yoghurt with some fresh fruit mixed in it
1 omega 3-6-9 complex fish oil capsule

Brunch
Tuna sandwich/egg sandwich/Chicken sandwich

Pre workout ( 1 hour before workout )
50 grams of Dextrose
50 grams of Maltodextrin
50 grams of the 100% optimum protein I am buying
mixed with 1 Litre of Water

Straight after workout

50 grams of Dextrose
50 grams of Maltodextrin
50 grams of the 100% optimum protein I am buying
mixed with 1 Litre of Water
1 Vitamin C and E tablet

3 hours later
Basic meal, e.g. Chicken, rice, pasta etc

Before I sleep
Eggs and fruit etc
1 L-Glutamine capsule

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it sounds okay to me, but i personally don't fool with the maltodextrin / dextrose supplements. i gain most of my weight (on the rare occassion i need to go up in weight) by just increase caloric intake. usually double protein, increase weights in the gym by 1.5 to 2x's. I also eat more carbs (keeping it in proper balance with fiber).

thats pretty much all i do. i do cut back on cardio a bit ( so i burn fewer calories)
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it sounds okay to me, but i personally don't fool with the maltodextrin / dextrose supplements. i gain most of my weight (on the rare occassion i need to go up in weight) by just increase caloric intake. usually double protein, increase weights in the gym by 1.5 to 2x's. I also eat more carbs (keeping it in proper balance with fiber).

thats pretty much all i do. i do cut back on cardio a bit ( so i burn fewer calories)
do you feel its dangerous to mess about with the malt and dex supplements? I am still not sure about going ahead with it. But seriously it's incredibly hard for me to gain weight, and I eat like a machine!

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ok guys, im still a massive noob but what about this plan? please pick me apart if anything is wrong. I could be completely wrong about this :P but remember I am a hard gainer trying to gain weight, and thats the goal of this plan

ok but what do you think of this plan? obviously I wont follow it PERFECTLY everyday, but If I stay consistent what do you think? Also is it fine to take the 3 tablets a day?

6 Meals a day plan

Morning
Eat yoghurt with some fresh fruit mixed in it
1 omega 3-6-9 complex fish oil capsule

Brunch
Tuna sandwich/egg sandwich/Chicken sandwich

Pre workout ( 1 hour before workout )
50 grams of Dextrose
50 grams of Maltodextrin
50 grams of the 100% optimum protein I am buying
mixed with 1 Litre of Water

Straight after workout

50 grams of Dextrose
50 grams of Maltodextrin
50 grams of the 100% optimum protein I am buying
mixed with 1 Litre of Water
1 Vitamin C and E tablet

3 hours later
Basic meal, e.g. Chicken, rice, pasta etc

Before I sleep
Eggs and fruit etc
1 L-Glutamine capsule
That is not 6 meals a day, nor is it enough calories. Your number one supplement in your diet should be food, not something else. Worry about eating good, stop worrying about supplements.




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post #26 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-08-2007, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
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That is not 6 meals a day, nor is it enough calories. Your number one supplement in your diet should be food, not something else. Worry about eating good, stop worrying about supplements.
some suggestions of what should be replaced?

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okay- heres my basic plan (this is what i use to maintain weight):

first meal (6:30am): protein shake, granola bar (organic)

Breakfast(8am): 2 Whole grain waffles with agave nectar, 3 pieces of bacon, 2 eggs, fruit juice 12 oz(cranberry, grapefruit, OJ)

snack (10:30am):Half protein shake, granola bar

Lunch(12:30pm): Veggie sub (cucumbers, onions, carrots, red cabbage, spinach, raddiches, bell peppers, mushrooms)on whole weat bread with oil and vinegar, cous cous (or tabouleh), 20 oz. water, fruit (mango, bananna).

snack (3:30pm): other half of protein shake, mixed nuts- dry roasted, no salt.

Dinner (7pm): Sushi (usually eel and mackrel rolls, some tuna, brown sushi rice only- no soy sauce), green onion soup (made with chicken broth-low sodium, low fat), watercress and black bean salad, 20 oz. water, 12oz. green tea, steamed pork dumplings, steamed veggies.

snack (10pm): herbal tea, whole wheat toast and fig jam.


now, obviously if you're trying to gain weight, i'd replace dinner with something more italian. you know, pastas and more proteins. prob should add some more carbs and more protein to lunch as well. could also change the half shake snacks to whole shakes.

as for the maltodextrin and stuff, just drop it. they are a waste of money. you can gain weight by eating right and supplementing with a good protein shake or gainer shake.

Note: when increasing protein, keep fat low. when increasing carbs keep fiber high (20-25g fiber/day) and if you are going to supplement, take a good multi-vitamin. GNC Mega Men Sport is a good one since it has an energy blend and a glutamine, taurine, etc added.

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post #28 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-08-2007, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the help again. I still have to go uni so have to eat on the job. So I cant eat crazy food I could eat at home. Now I need to work out what to take for lunch

first meal (6:30am): protein shake, cereal bar, 1 omega 3-6-9 complex fish oil capsule

Breakfast(8am): 2 Whole grain waffles with agave nectar, 2 eggs with corned beef hash, fruit juice, 1 GNC Mega Men Sport capsule

snack (10:30am):
Tuna sandwich/egg sandwich/Chicken sandwich

Lunch (12:30pm):


snack (4:00pm): Protein Shake. mixed nuts- dry roasted, no salt. Mango/grapes

Dinner (7pm): Chicken, rice, pasta, vegetables etc

snack (10pm):
2X whole wheat toast and jam. Mango/grapes

Just before I sleep: Half a protein shake

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Just remember the supplements are meant to work with a good diet not substitute for a poor diet. If that were what they were meant to do they would be called substitutes. Be sure to take in at least 1 gram of protein for every pound of lean body weight. If your don't know your lean body weight (not total body weight!) get your body fat measured and figure it out. Other than that you might want to keep the carbs really low after about 5 pm since you don't need the energy.
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post #30 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-09-2007, 01:54 PM
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for lunch try two peanut butter sandwhiches on whole grain bread. some fruit, (if you can eat them cold- or have a way to warm them) canned beans/ baked beans, granola bar, water.
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