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View Poll Results: Favorite Takedown?
Double leg takedown 10 34.48%
single leg takedown or low single 3 10.34%
Bear hug (to trip, hip throw, slam, chin in chest) 7 24.14%
Japanese whizzer (like a shoulder throw thingy.) 1 3.45%
Hip Throw or any judo throw 2 6.90%
foot sweep 0 0%
arm drag 1 3.45%
inside trip 3 10.34%
A good hard punch, kick, elbow, headbutt, or knee 3 10.34%
other (explain) 5 17.24%
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The idea that Don is trying to explain with the neck lock is pretty simple (if I know what he's talking about). What he's doing is separating the head from the spine by changing the angle, this removes all of the support that the neck and back might otherwise give it.

That's a pretty cool, I've never had the opportunity to use it as a takedown, but when standing it seems to work pretty well for landing knees and elbows.



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Once I used as a take down actualy it was in a sword class, I had my sword knocked out of my hands and the person went for a straight thrust. I just barely side stepped and basicly took an open palmto the far side of his haed and pushed back as his body was moving foward, I did trun his head towards me a bit as well but his foward motion combined with my backwards push he fell flat on the back of his head.

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Clever.

I think alot of people forget that the amount of force applied is really unimportant, what matters is that you know where to apply it. For instance, a little bit of pressure applied in a spiral motion to the wrist (moving the pinky towards the thumb) causes the wrist to lock up and gives your opponent 2 options, to fall down or to have their wrist shattered. If you turn the wrist the other way it causes your opponent to come up off of their center of gravity and make the body easy to manipulate.

These are pretty standard Aikido techniques (kote gaishi and sankyo), but they are alot of fun to use and allow you to manipulate an opponent of almost any size.



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yea i know stuff like that I was some how applying naturally to my grappling skills before I had official training in it the training just allowed me to develop more ways that were more effective to apply it, THere is an Aikido school near me I am getting ready to contact, becasue these techniques are great in self defense for people who do not have size or strength to apply

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Aikido is spiritual for alot of people and it's combat for alot of people. The spirals and ciruits that you develop in Aikido are something that you can't really find less dynamic arts (BJJ and JJJ). Aikido really helped me develop one of my fortes, the standing rear naked choke as a punch counter.



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so do you recomend this art to someone who already has pretty decent ground skills but needs some work on thier stand up striking?

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It doesn't do much to improve your actual striking ability, but it really helps in deal with the way that strikers control a fight and it really helps to understand the control of tempo that happens when both fighters are standing.

One of the traits that alot of people develop in Aikido is the ability to move into an attack, countering it as you move in and applying the takedown. Not only does this scare the crap out of anyone who thinks that they can take you on, but it helps if you want to take control and give you the ability to go the ground whenever you want.



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excellent it is then exzactly what I am looking for though
i know I do need to work on my striking as a back up but I got someone to help me with that

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The really cool thing about Aikido is thta alot of strikers will through a straight off-hand shot and expect that to back you off. With Aikido you can step in and actually begin performing submissions. Plus the spiritualism and focus of aikido really changes alot of people's perception of combat sports.

Let me know what you think when you start.



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well I have always been into the spiritual side of the martial arts and such, and I will keep you posted might be awhile though before I actually start taking classes.

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