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View Poll Results: Favorite Takedown?
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Double leg takedown
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34.48% |
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single leg takedown or low single
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10.34% |
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Bear hug (to trip, hip throw, slam, chin in chest)
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24.14% |
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Japanese whizzer (like a shoulder throw thingy.)
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3.45% |
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Hip Throw or any judo throw
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6.90% |
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foot sweep
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arm drag
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3.45% |
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inside trip
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10.34% |
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A good hard punch, kick, elbow, headbutt, or knee
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10.34% |
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other (explain)
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17.24% |
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06-07-2006, 01:39 PM
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True Grappler
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I did have a little "encounter" with a wrestler last night and I just want to say that he went in for a leg takedown and, as I've seen alot in MMA, he forgot that I have knees and he ended up eating one of my kneecaps.
There has to be some caution taken when you're in an MMA fight because you aren't just going to able to clinch with your opponent. People catch elbows and knees and shins all of the time rushing into takedowns. That's why, if you ever watch Royce Gracie this is something to look for, you have to throw a kick out there to distract your opponent while you go in for a clinch.
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06-08-2006, 02:56 PM
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yea a pure wrestler greco roman style is at a big disadvantage when stikes are allowed cause they do not train in it at all and do not instinctualy look out for things like knees and elbows, a punch most people might look out for but they are not used to getting elbows and knees thrown at them
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06-08-2006, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Don
yea a pure wrestler greco roman style is at a big disadvantage when stikes are allowed cause they do not train in it at all and do not instinctualy look out for things like knees and elbows, a punch most people might look out for but they are not used to getting elbows and knees thrown at them
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One of the reasons that I could never take a highschool wrestler seriously in a fight is because I know that when he comes in hes watching my torso to see which way I'm going to move, he's not paying attention to my elbows and my knees. But that's what's so awesome about MMA, you can see how all of these things match up.
Another big disadvantage of Roman-Greco is that there aren't any chokes allowed, so the wrestlers don't look for chokes and they don't look for armbars. The best submission that I've gotten on a pure wrestler was a leg crucifix, which is almost impossible to get on anyone with submission experience.
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06-08-2006, 04:05 PM
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yea i was not allowed on the school wrestling team becasue I could not speerate my jjj moves from my normal style they were too much a part of me.
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06-08-2006, 04:10 PM
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My school didn't have combat sports, so I taught BJJ to the wrestling team at a local public school. One of the younger guys there got really into it and he just tested for his purple belt.
It's really cool to teach people and then leave for a little while and come back for the summer and see how they expanded on it.
Right now this one guy, I think he's in the 155 weight class, is undefeated, it's really cool to see.
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06-13-2006, 03:00 AM
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Favorite Takedown? The Classic "Up and Dump" Double Leg ala Frank Shamrock. I absolutely love the pure simplicity and brutality of a double leg takedown. Otherwise, there are so many other sweeps and turns you can use out of a clinch.
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06-13-2006, 04:24 PM
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Nice slam. It looks like he landed on his head when he fell.
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06-13-2006, 06:13 PM
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yeah frank was a friggin tough a$$ beast. Amazing slam on the head!
Ironman how old r u and when did you teach BJJ to wrestlers? That would be cool if i had something like that at my school and do they have competitions?
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06-13-2006, 09:09 PM
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Nice slam. It looks like he landed on his head when he fell.
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Yep... Igor does end up landing on his head. You'll also notice right at impact Franks legs are in the air, and his shoulder is also squarely in Igor's chin. Getting take down like that would knock the fight out of the majority of fighters out there.
Here's another brutal takedown/suplex. However, it just further proves that Fedor is a freakin' machine. Most other fighters would have been sent into traction off of that throw.
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06-14-2006, 02:35 PM
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I like the tapout finish on that one.
I've always thought that suplex was a little bit stupid because I'm short and strong and sometimes I have trouble getting my weight under people. Now I'm gonna have to start working on that.
Fedor is definitely way too good to be allowed to fight anyone. If he got really angry he could kill somebody.
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