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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-03-2009, 08:21 PM
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LOL hopefully I could beat up a b!tch if it came down to it. A lot of women in their 30s and 40s who do martial arts get way too serious about it, and I'm hoping it's to my advantage that I constantly spar men.


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LOL hopefully I could beat up a b!tch if it came down to it. A lot of women in their 30s and 40s who do martial arts get way too serious about it, and I'm hoping it's to my advantage that I constantly spar men.
Yeah they do!! lol There's a few in my Karate class that go nuts with Kias and it scares the living shit out of me lol.

Oh and when I spar with them, you don't take them lightly, they will beat the hell out of you in sparring if I don't give medium contact or sparr with them at 100% potential.

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I saw some 50ish women competing in forms (kata) a couple of years ago and I was trying not to laugh b/c of their interpretation of the kihap for competition. I have to work on changing how I come out every time in sparring, I switch stances, try to work my angles, refine my blitz etc. but it's hard to integrate and that's why I get uptight that we don't spar more.

It does challenge me that any young guys I spar with tend to lack control, (still growing I guess, lol) so if I get rocked here and there I think it prepares me better for if another woman comes on full bore.

We have a 28 y/o former thai boxer with superb control, heavy hands but good footwork, good roller/thrower/faller, who comes to class here and there, I wish my teacher would let me spar him, I think he would help me a lot. He's a prison guard or something and I guess it helps him for parts of his job.


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that's from the sport adaptation of gojuryu karate and has nothing to do with the type of taekwondo that I practice.

You've obviously never read my training log. I don't go to a competition school, I don't grapple much (yet) and olympic-rules TKD sparring is generally reserved for higher ranks. I am an advanced green belt.

I wish people would stop making generalizations about a martial art they're clearly not well informed on.
I myself train in a modified form of TKD. That is, modified in such a way as to utilize modern boxing rather than chambered punches and to spar live, with medium-hard contact. The instructor is a 5th dan, and I spar regularly with a 3rd dan and his 2nd dan brother. I'm making generalizations, but at least I'm reasonably well informed. Traditional TKD and competition TKD are, generally, glorified slap-and-tickle fests. Forms and traditional blocks can have their uses, but TKD punching and insistence on point sparring do not. If you want to train TKD, good for you. If you want to train it in a less effective way, fine, that's your prerogative. I have no problem with it. I was just remarking on the fact that point sparring is silly.

Oh, and the 'crane stance' was a Karate Kid reference. Cuz, y'know, point sparring against Kobra-Kai and all that.

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I'll give ya a positive rep as it seemed like it was just a joke, of course one of the top dawgs negative repped you so your bar is pretty much ****ed.


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I know it was a Karate Kid reference. That's why I said in my earlier post that it was a sport karate adaptation of gojuryu karate. Ask any gojuryu instructor and they'll tell you the same.

I have been training boxing along with TKD for 4 years. My teacher has an extensive boxing background and is going up for 4th dan black belt. For you to make any type of "slap and tickle" generalization is unjustified, has no basis in reality where my school is concerned, and is surely what earned you all that neg rep. There are more TKD practitioners on this forum than you think. It is not up to you to say what is effective and what isn't. You know as well as I do that point fighting, Olympic rules fighting, and street fighting are all different in terms of what is effective and what is not. I have only just begun grappling and my aim, and my teacher's, is to integrate all three. You are simply not in a position to make the generalizations and sweeping judgments that you have been making, particularly if you yourself train in a modified version of TKD. Your high-handed attitude is only going to result in more neg rep.


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I have been training boxing along with TKD for 4 years. My teacher has an extensive boxing background and is going up for 4th dan black belt. For you to make any type of "slap and tickle" generalization is unjustified, has no basis in reality where my school is concerned, and is surely what earned you all that neg rep.
Unjustified how? I've watched point sparring firsthand. I've sparred live against 3rd and 2nd degree black belts that had previously only done point sparring. I've heard the very same generalization made by both of them. Even if I don't have all that much experience with point sparring, they do.

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There are more TKD practitioners on this forum than you think. It is not up to you to say what is effective and what isn't. You know as well as I do that point fighting, Olympic rules fighting, and street fighting are all different in terms of what is effective and what is not. I have only just begun grappling and my aim, and my teacher's, is to integrate all three. You are simply not in a position to make the generalizations and sweeping judgments that you have been making, particularly if you yourself train in a modified version of TKD. Your high-handed attitude is only going to result in more neg rep.
I'm not talking about being effective in a point-sparring competition, I'm talking about being an effective martial art. Like I said, if your goal is to be good at point-sparring that's fine. Just don't think that it'll make you good at fighting. If you and your teacher have trained boxing then you should know the value of aliveness. That is, being as close to a real-life situation as is feasible. Point sparring is not alive training.

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