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Old 03-14-2009, 07:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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1.do your research because i'm not going to do it for you.
Is that a way of saying that this research doesn't exist? You sit there and spew anecdotal claims that products do and don't work based on your personal experiences? Who can take you seriously. And you claim you're a bodybuilder? That career choice must have been short lived.

There is research out there you just don't want to accept the fact that it worked for other people and not you.


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2. ZMA and trib it works really? try having to be over 40 for it work duh!
Tell that to the people over at bodybuilding.com and Anabolicminds.com and guarantee you'll get the shit negged out of you for being a moron. You can't argue with results.

I'd say that if someone gets Gynecomastia from Tribulus, I'd say it's doing something.

Ross Enamait also swears by ZMA and I suppose he's full of shit too right? I guess Patrick Arnold the genius behind THG and Andro, his word doesn't mean anything right?

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3. Gaba does claim to raise testosterone but it doesn't
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gaba.html

I don't see anything here about raising testosterone, do you? Anyway how is an inhibitory neurotransmitter going to have any effect on Testosterone. Please Enlighten me.

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4. natural test boosters dont really work andonly work on people who are old and don't have natural test levels. do yoru freaking research. gosh.
I took Mass FX and had some nice gains in mass, feeling of well being, energy and libido and I'm 20. I suppose me and the people over at all the bodybuilding forums are full of shit too huh. Go read some logs over there and then tell me it's still bullshit.

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I just believe it's a waste of money to be using stuff you do not need and wont help you unless you are that old man with low testosterone or w/e.
It may have more effect on someone with low hormone levels but that doesn't mean if it's introduced to the body of a person with already naturally high levels that it won't do anything. Stop being Dumb.
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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You still haven't convinced me, half of what you say can be easily dismissed as placebo effect.

The Gaba thing, it must've been deleted, there was oneon there that said it would raise your test levels by 800%, I kid you not.

Again I never said that NOS didn't work.

Creatine is a waste of money and did not work for me, if it worked for you good for you.

You're young and natural test boosters worked for you? placebo effect, go over to bb.com adn let them neg you into deep red hell for your beliefs.
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You still haven't convinced me, half of what you say can be easily dismissed as placebo effect.
I could give a shit less about trying to convince you. I'm past trying to do that seeing as you are clearly stuck on stupid. Just read around on bodybuilding.com, you're a member go read some logs.

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The Gaba thing, it must've been deleted, there was oneon there that said it would raise your test levels by 800%, I kid you not.
That sounds like a marketing claim not the results of a scientific study.

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You're young and natural test boosters worked for you? placebo effect, go over to bb.com adn let them neg you into deep red hell for your beliefs.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1003937&page=1

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3610751

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...ovedex-xt.html

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113837791
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I could give a shit less about trying to convince you. I'm past trying to do that seeing as you are clearly stuck on stupid. Just read around on bodybuilding.com, you're a member go read some logs.



That sounds like a marketing claim not the results of a scientific study.



http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1003937&page=1

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3610751
dude, i've been a member there for 7 years and have read every article there was on every supplement and every log and every thread, excluding the past 2 years. (been out of commission)
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dude, i've been a member there for 7 years and have read every article there was on every supplement and every log and every thread, excluding the past 2 years. (been out of commission)
So I guess everyone using Natty Test Booster who are under 40 are all suffering from a Placebo Effect?

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lock this thread and make it a sticky, i'm tired of this ignorant moron
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lock this thread and make it a sticky, i'm tired of this ignorant moron

lol make it a sticky?

Seriously, you have to be a troll... I dont think a human could be as stupid as you, unless it was intentional.
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lock this thread and make it a sticky, i'm tired of this ignorant moron
I'm ignorant? Ha.

You post a thread with a title "supplements that do and and don't work" but you have yet to cite one source to back up the ridiculous claims you are making.

Who is the ignorant moron here?
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