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Training & Nutrition Training and Nutrition are essential in becoming a top notch mixed martial artist. Discuss with other fighters how to get and stay in top shape!
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05-04-2009, 01:15 AM
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MMA Fanatic
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BJJ and Muay Thai or mma
Ok............ im pretty new to the forums so im not sure if this is the right section.im srry if its not......... Well im either thinking bout taking BJJ and Muay Thau in two seperate classes. or taking just one mma class that covers both......... what would be the better chioce?? Any help aprecciated. thanks
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05-04-2009, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wingfu101
Ok............ im pretty new to the forums so im not sure if this is the right section.im srry if its not......... Well im either thinking bout taking BJJ and Muay Thau in two seperate classes. or taking just one mma class that covers both......... what would be the better chioce?? Any help aprecciated. thanks
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Modern MMA classes focus on conditioning, in my experience, and most of the instructors are not that technical (unless the guy is a legit fighter, and by legit I mean has UFC experience and a background in another martial art).
I recommend BJJ and Muay Thai. That will give you the opportunity to learn more technique and pick the techniques that you like.
MMA classes are a great place to hone skills and practice blending the game, but wait until you've got a solid technical base in one or two other styles, that way you understand an aspect of the game and can work out what parts your instructor is using brute force instead of skill in (because every instructor does, every fighter does, in my experience).
Anyway, those are my two cents.
This thread has been relocated to the general training techniques section.
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05-04-2009, 02:14 AM
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05-04-2009, 02:49 AM
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Ditto what IronMan said.
The MMA classes where I train, although anyone is free to attend, are dedicated more towards people who know the basics of BJJ, muay thai, wrestling, etc.
Since BJJ is based off of fundamental techniques, it's absolutely vital to learn the basics and have a strong base before trying to blend multiple arts.
A newbie could get by in the MMA class, but would likely be skipping a lot of the basics that are quite important.
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05-04-2009, 02:51 AM
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I agree with IronMan. I would take the Muay Thai and Bjj classes for sure, that way you can build a solid foundation of good technique.
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05-04-2009, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wingfu101
Ok............ im pretty new to the forums so im not sure if this is the right section.im srry if its not......... Well im either thinking bout taking BJJ and Muay Thau in two seperate classes. or taking just one mma class that covers both......... what would be the better chioce?? Any help aprecciated. thanks
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mma stands for mixed martial arts...there for it is not in itself a martial art
muay thai and bjj are the 2 primary martial arts that get use in mma....
do the math....
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05-04-2009, 04:32 PM
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Originally I would have agreed with IronMan as well but honestly I'd say the MMA gym is the way to go. A good MMA gym will have different coaches for different aspects of MMA and can help you to put all the pieces together.
When I transitioned from TMA to MMA I was fairly disappointed in the amount of time I spent on conditioning versus technical advancement as I keep myself in good shape on 'my' time. Instructor-led conditioning still improved my functional strength and cardio. When people watch televised MMA they see high quality athletes (typically). In a lot of smaller shows you see the disparity in conditioning as devastating as a skill disparity. I've seen a lot of guys just get worn out and shut down. As part of our progression system we include conditioning baseline requirements.
Plus most classic BJJ schools use the GI and don't train striking defense.
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05-04-2009, 05:08 PM
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Das Übermensch
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Originally I would have agreed with IronMan as well but honestly I'd say the MMA gym is the way to go. A good MMA gym will have different coaches for different aspects of MMA and can help you to put all the pieces together.
When I transitioned from TMA to MMA I was fairly disappointed in the amount of time I spent on conditioning versus technical advancement as I keep myself in good shape on 'my' time. Instructor-led conditioning still improved my functional strength and cardio. When people watch televised MMA they see high quality athletes (typically). In a lot of smaller shows you see the disparity in conditioning as devastating as a skill disparity. I've seen a lot of guys just get worn out and shut down. As part of our progression system we include conditioning baseline requirements.
Plus most classic BJJ schools use the GI and don't train striking defense.
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What martial arts did you transfer from, muay thai and/or Bjj? I have experience in an 'MMA' gym and I can tell you straight up that there is litle technique taught when you attend an MMA class. It's much more focused around conditioning, and pushing yourself.
Now on the other hand, when I'd go to boxing, muay thai, or Bjj classes, there would be a much larger emphasis on technique, and improving as a fighter, especially with Bjj. If you have no solid foundation, and just start off doing "MMA," you will never be great at fighting, because you'll have mediocre striking, medicore wrestling, mediocre submissions, etc.
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05-04-2009, 05:28 PM
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I have studied Tae Kwon Do, Judo, and Jujutsu in a traditional setting. I was also an actively competitive kickboxer (American style) for several years as well. I made sure to specify a "A good MMA gym" as I've seen plenty of bad ones that would encourage me to agree with you guys.
I believe a good MMA gym can make you a very good MMA fighter with no prior experience but divesity in your training can be very beneficial.
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05-04-2009, 08:00 PM
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BTW the gym im talking about is taought by Uriah Fabers.....
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