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Old 06-17-2009, 01:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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naw well hold up that was for that day thats why i suggested what meals are good. i eat grilled chicken breast, tuna, turkey sandwhiches... ect...

like today i had 2 boiled eggs in the morning, then protien, then a chicken sandwich, later on a fruit salad, later protein again then went training afterwards...
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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like today i had 2 boiled eggs in the morning, then protien, then a chicken sandwich, later on a fruit salad, later protein again then went training afterwards...

Wow. What a very large and substatnital amount of food.

Seriously what do you weigh? Are you really overweight or something? Starving yourself isn;t really the best way to lose weight, you will just burn out fairly fast.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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First off, even before you start dieting you should educate yourself. For us to properly help you we need you're hight weight age gender then we can go from there. Im not an expert but I defiantly know how to cut. I was ~320 and now im 240 still going strong. If you want to properly build the machine known as your body then you must properly fuel the machine. It looks like you have the right idea moving towards clean foods but with out proper macros being ment your only using up muscle and storing fat. Yea the scale might read less weight but you've effectively made it harder to lose fat.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow. What a very large and substatnital amount of food.

Seriously what do you weigh? Are you really overweight or something? Starving yourself isn;t really the best way to lose weight, you will just burn out fairly fast.
nope im 186, i have muscle and im dropping weight. im starting to get cut all over. dont forget i got trainers for mma class so i talk to them and they tell me shit. the suggest what i can and cant eat. so dont think im a fat ass or anything like that. i eat light because for almost 2 years i was slimming down so my stomach shrank... its not like im trying not to eat anything with protien and good calories.. also im watching the portion size, i aint eating some big ******* subways sandwiches... its not rocket science.. how about suggest something to me im 5'10 186lbs what do you recommend as far as food goes cuz so far everything has been good.

and deco before you "educate me" i was 312 before got down to 186 and still dropping.. i went to school for massage therapy so we did have nutrition courses...
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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nope im 186, i have muscle and im dropping weight. im starting to get cut all over. dont forget i got trainers for mma class so i talk to them and they tell me shit.
They are MMA trainers, not nutritionists. I don't think there is much wrong with what you are eating, besides the obvious lack of carbs, but the amount.

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the suggest what i can and cant eat. so dont think im a fat ass or anything like that. i eat light because for almost 2 years i was slimming down so my stomach shrank.
What does that have to do with fueling yourself properly to train? I'm not suggesting you go try to eat an entire cheescake.

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its not like im trying not to eat anything with protien and good calories.. also im watching the portion size, i aint eating some big ******* subways sandwiches... its not rocket science.
No it is not. Your body needs food to fuel itself, and I don't think you are getting enough with your level of training. How many calories do you average a day?


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how about suggest something to me im 5'10 186lbs what do you recommend as far as food goes cuz so far everything has been good.
5'10 and 186 isn't big. How much lighter are you planning to get?

I recommend you eat more. If you can eat as little as you are currently and keep up the training regime you are on now without overtraining, good for you. I don't think you can.
I've eaten more in one sitting than you have in the past two days with ease, and I am not a big guy. It just seems like way too little, even if you are cutting.

Also, you saying things like that you used to munch straight after training but don;t anymore make me question the level of your knowledge about nutrition. Just because you speak to a few trainers means nothing. I don't listen to jackass trainers tell me I need to bring the bar down to my nipples when I bench for instance. Being a trainer or working at a gym doesn't really mean much, a lot of those guys have some stupid ideas.

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Also, if you think subway sandwiches are "big" then the sandwiches you make yourself must really suck.
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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deco before you "educate me" i was 312 before got down to 186 and still dropping.. i went to school for massage therapy so we did have nutrition courses...
Im not educating you. I said you need to educate yourself. I'm not going to force feed you proven scientific facts about nutrition and why what your doing isnt good for you're body. And im sorry I didnt realize you took nutrition classes in message therapy school, they obviously taught you alot. I'm not here to bash you what so ever i was trying to help but since you and your mma trainers are know so much why ask us in the first place?
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bodybuilding.com is good as well. they have a whole nutrition section.

You want to make sure you eat after you workout though. You showed you work out at 9pm. Thats fine but you still have to eat after you work out. Obviously you will be eating healthy so it wont matter its so late. After a workout a lot of those nutrients will be used very quickly. Just make sure its within 30 minutes of finishing lifting for best results.

It sounds stupid eating right before bed, but if your on a diet its not. If your diet calls for 2000 calories and at 9pm you have 1750, its important to keep it consistent but not exact. If you eat the same calories every day you will plateau give or take 150 a day to keep your metabolism from hitting a plateau.
thats a nice site, thanks for the info homie. how long until someones metabolism changes?
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thats a nice site, thanks for the info homie. how long until someones metabolism changes?
Depends on the person really. When I started lifting 6 days a week I noticed after about a week. Basically I was burning more and eating more often and I would feel ravenous hunger more often even though I was eating a good amount.
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