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post #21 of 66 (permalink) Old 07-27-2009, 08:23 PM
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i say dont do it. it makes your muscles have a watery feel to it. theres this one guy i used to train bjj with that uses it. sure hes really cut and deezed but doesnt have natural strenght
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How is it not natural strength. Thats like saying using protein gives you unnatural strength. Creatine can be found in red meat. It also does not give your muscles a watery feel. Creatine is not a miracle supp, you won't get stronger by just taking it.
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Just a couple of months ago, there was a study in the JISSN that showed CEE was actually inferior to regular creatine monohydrate.. So, not only does it taste bad, but it also doesn't work...

The theory behind creatine and gatorade comes from the carbs. The carbs in gatorade cause an insulin spike, which helps pull more creatine in the muscle (simplified version). This theory has been out since creatine has been available. Out of all the methods used to push more creatine into the muscle, this one has the most evidence behind it.

The next generation of creatine products will contain ingredients that improve insulin sensitivity.

Shotgun has these creatnes in it.....
Creatine Gluconate

CEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) The CEE you referrenced

PLUS

Creatine Taurinate
Creatine Monohydrate (traditional)
COP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)

Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine MonohydrateCOP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine Monohydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine Monohydrate
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That's serious overkill... Give me regular creatine monohydrate, some carbs, and cinsulin for half the price.

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Shotgun has these creatnes in it.....
Creatine Gluconate

CEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) The CEE you referrenced

PLUS

Creatine Taurinate
Creatine Monohydrate (traditional)
COP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)

Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine MonohydrateCOP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine Monohydrate
Creatine GluconateCEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL) Creatine TaurinateCreatine Monohydrate
Would you give up on the Shotgun already? It's a pre-workout supp primarily.
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taking it in powder is also better, digests better and quicker into your system

ive taken both tri creatine and mono hydrate creatine,

i weighed 150 with monohydrate,

started taking tri creatine, i weigh 145 now and look the same. im also as strong if not stronger than i was before, which is probably jus a result of training and diet, not really from switching creatines.
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Would you give up on the Shotgun already? It's a pre-workout supp primarily.

All I was ever pointing out is that the creatine I injest...is in NO Shotgun......

I fully acknowledge it doesnt come in a bottle that says creatine on it.......


Would you take creatine if you were already taking NO Shotgun...??? No....
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Just because it has creatine doesn't mean there is enough. Take No-Xplode for example (overpriced) its mainly a NO/pre-wo product but it says it has creatine. However this amoung is negligible and another creatine product would need to be used. NO-Shotgun has speculation of containing 2-5gs of createin. If it has 5g that should be good, 2/3g you might want to take another supp for creatine.

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phenom is right, most pre workout drinks contain just enough creatine to sustain a workout, usually u take creatine after your workout aswell. i tihnk the reccomendation is 5-10g per day which is 1-2 teaspoons.
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All I was ever pointing out is that the creatine I injest...is in NO Shotgun......

I fully acknowledge it doesnt come in a bottle that says creatine on it.......


Would you take creatine if you were already taking NO Shotgun...??? No....
1. So? It's a very minimal amount.

2. I'm pretty sure the nutrition label would expand on its ingredients and include the small creatine serving in there.

3. Yes, it isn't enough creatine to provide gains the way regular monohydrate or other creatine products would. I've experimented with different creatine products now and then but I'm not all that interested in doing so again so I don't really care.
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