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Old 07-29-2009, 07:13 AM   #51 (permalink)
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My bad you called MAKO09 a noob.

You still don't get, we're not jumping on you cause we wouldn't take it, but you don't understand whats in it/what its about. Yes the OP should take that he should be recommended products without saying what it is/whats in it. Not only stupid but dangerous. Its also very much on topic.

You still didn't say why you negged me.

I dont care whats in it......before you tell me Im dumb....my trainer gave it to me along with my diet plan and other supplements......

Dude knows his stuff.......or maybe e doesnt and is just jacked anyways......

This was a reco from him, he explained to me there are like 3 types of Creatine in it......Thats good enough for me, if I were a Pro Bodybuilder and had the time I would take some time to sit down and learn all the chemicals and nutrients and read all the books on working out that I can...

I run a buiness and work all freakin day....by the time I get to the GYM the Shotgun gives me energy, mainly due to the red line(i suspect) other than the fact that it has creatine in it thats the only reason I take it....

Is this what the Pro's do.....dude i dont know, and i dont care, and the OP isnt a Pro or he wouldnt be asking............but where we are now we could have been 3 pages ago without the bullshit back and forth......I never claimed to be an expert, instead I made a suggestion based on one that was made to me FTR....I went from 197 to 158 working with this dude, now Im starting to train for mass to bulk to a nice ripped 170......BUT IM NOT A PRO.......

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Old 07-29-2009, 08:27 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I cannot PM you so I'll say it here in response.

I do not have any problems with you taking NO-Shotgun, I have problems with you reccomending it to someone without knowing whats in it. As I said, unsafe. I would not have negged you had you not negged me first. I am quite content with explaining my thinking with someone who disagrees with me w/ having to negg, its pointless IMO because thats not negg worthy. I don't even care that you negged me (Which I still do see as for no reason) so much as I care that I didn't have any reps to counter act that negg to keep me in the green. Now I am in the red so that would make me look less trustworthy in terms of advice giving to other people. I also never said you won that argument, you have me confused with someone else, possibly MAKO09 saying "I vote for GPS in that argument," as I have never said such a thing in this thread.
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I cannot PM you so I'll say it here in response.

I do not have any problems with you taking NO-Shotgun, I have problems with you reccomending it to someone without knowing whats in it. As I said, unsafe. I would not have negged you had you not negged me first. I am quite content with explaining my thinking with someone who disagrees with me w/ having to negg, its pointless IMO because thats not negg worthy. I don't even care that you negged me (Which I still do see as for no reason) so much as I care that I didn't have any reps to counter act that negg to keep me in the green. Now I am in the red so that would make me look less trustworthy in terms of advice giving to other people. I also never said you won that argument, you have me confused with someone else, possibly MAKO09 saying "I vote for GPS in that argument," as I have never said such a thing in this thread.

Enjoy all the rest of your time on the boards dude, best wishes.....
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I cannot PM you so I'll say it here in response.

I do not have any problems with you taking NO-Shotgun, I have problems with you reccomending it to someone without knowing whats in it. As I said, unsafe.
That's basically my point. I could careless if you continue to cycle with NO Shotgun but your input was pretty lame and not all that properly insightful. That's where it all stems from and that's it.

You continue to say 'let's get this thread back on topic and talk about caps/powder and recommending creatine to the OP' well my rebuttel to that is the only reason it's off topic is because you continue to recommend an energy supplement as a creatine product!

It's over, it's all good. I'm walking away with no hard feelings. I just don't understand how I was warned by a moderator, who in all likelihood didn't take the time to understand my beef in the thread. Not like calling you a 'tool' is any worse than you calling those two 'noobs' or 'trolls'. I'm utterly perplexed by that but other than that, I'm done in here.

But yeah, glad to see the double standard on this forum, nice.

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That's basically my point. I could careless if you continue to cycle with NO Shotgun but your input was pretty lame and not all that properly insightful. That's where it all stems from and that's it.

You continue to say 'let's get this thread back on topic and talk about caps/powder and recommending creatine to the OP' well my rebuttel to that is the only reason it's off topic is because you continue to recommend an energy supplement as a creatine product!

It's over, it's all good. I'm walking away with no hard feelings. I just don't understand how I was warned by a moderator, who in all likelihood didn't take the time to understand my beef in the thread. Not like calling you a 'tool' is any worse than you calling those two 'noobs' or 'trolls'. I'm utterly perplexed by that but other than that, I'm done in here.

But yeah, glad to see the double standard on this forum, nice.

Enjoy the rest of your time on the forum...best wishes.....
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Well this was healthy discussion about a product that was suggested which was suggested without proper knowledge, not much flames very little to none, some childish neggs but is w.e. .

What you should take away from this OP is that most creatine are all fundamentally the same when you buy more expensive versions it's usually for extras in the product. You should always check what's in the product as well. Powders are digested faster than pills but obviously are less convienient. Creatine helps build muscle and increases ATP. To effectively use creatine you need to intake a good amount of water as creatine works by pulling in water to your muscles. There are really no risks benefits include strength gains, lowering of cholesterol, better brain function, etc. Notable brands include Gaspari, Controlled Labs, Optimum Nutrition, Beast Sports, etc. Good places to purchase these products are bodybuilding.com and nutraplanet.com . Make sure whatever you purchase you look into what it contains, glycocyamine (gcc) is a semi popular ingridient that is a potential neuro toxin. Hope this helps OP.

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i mite just b a noob but at least i'm not parading around sayin all this bullshit when i don't know what i'm talkin about. you can go find all ur lil info on your lil body builder website and play smart but before you go around sayin all this stuff you need to take the time to see if you can comprehend what ur reading. you got owned by idk how many people because your info was WRONG and yet you still kept arguing. so call me what you want, call other ppl what you want, it's not gonna make you rite.
Bro edit your post a lil and add some advice in it, because you'll prob get banned over this shizz.
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