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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-10-2006, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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Is using Creatine, Whey Protien, and Glutamine a good idea???

Is using Creatine, Whey Protien, and Glutamine a good idea??? Should I just use 1 or 2 of em??? Will it overload me???

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-10-2006, 03:35 PM
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It depends. I personally have used Creatine (Monohydrate) and I could feel a difference a few days after starting it (I could lift the same weight I've been lifting before, but for 2 or 3 more sets than normal). The thing with Creatine is that people think it will make them stronger, so right when they start taking it they change their lifting weights and they end up hurting themselves. Creatine helps the muscle go longer than normal, so you can do extra reps (or sets) which makes you stronger. The Creatine itself doesn't make you stronger.

Depending on your diet, you probably don't need Whey Protein because, if you eat meat should be able to get enough protein in one day. If not, I would suggest string cheese (which is what I use for extra protein) because some brands of string cheese have around 8 grams of protein per serving (one stick of cheese) which isn't bad. Some people say you need to consume your weight in protein (for example, if you weigh 150 lbs. then you would consumer 150 grams a day of protein) but I'd only recommend it if you were a serious body builder, otherwise it has the potential to inflict serious damage on your kidneys (or liver, I know Creatine has that potential too, it's the organ not affected by protein).

As for Glutamine, I've never tried it (and I don't remember what it's for) so I don't have a comment on that.

Bottom line, I really woudn't recommend either Creatine or Whey Protein.
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Is using Creatine, Whey Protien, and Glutamine a good idea??? Should I just use 1 or 2 of em??? Will it overload me???
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It depends. I personally have used Creatine (Monohydrate) and I could feel a difference a few days after starting it (I could lift the same weight I've been lifting before, but for 2 or 3 more sets than normal). The thing with Creatine is that people think it will make them stronger, so right when they start taking it they change their lifting weights and they end up hurting themselves. Creatine helps the muscle go longer than normal, so you can do extra reps (or sets) which makes you stronger. The Creatine itself doesn't make you stronger.

Depending on your diet, you probably don't need Whey Protein because, if you eat meat should be able to get enough protein in one day. If not, I would suggest string cheese (which is what I use for extra protein) because some brands of string cheese have around 8 grams of protein per serving (one stick of cheese) which isn't bad. Some people say you need to consume your weight in protein (for example, if you weigh 150 lbs. then you would consumer 150 grams a day of protein) but I'd only recommend it if you were a serious body builder, otherwise it has the potential to inflict serious damage on your kidneys (or liver, I know Creatine has that potential too, it's the organ not affected by protein).

As for Glutamine, I've never tried it (and I don't remember what it's for) so I don't have a comment on that.

Bottom line, I really woudn't recommend either Creatine or Whey Protein.
I know all about Creatine and that it makes you able to push yourself harder so you can gain muscle quicker...I found out that Glutamine is in creatine and there is no reason to take both...But your point about whey protien is way off...See I am 15 and weigh 90 lbs so whey protien is the best choice for me, and the best choice for anyone...It gives you the esential protien you need to gain muscle, ask any UFC fighter about it and they will recommend it for building muscle (well almost any)...Whether or not you eat meat you can always use a little bit of extra protien befroe and after a workout...What I really need to know is wether taking all three at the same time is healthy, but I now know that all I really need is the Creatine and the Whey Protien.

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No it wont overload you, but its of no use unless you feed your body GOOD FOOD. I take muscle milk post workouts/whey/animal pack multi vits/glutamine+creatine+ 6 or seven meals a day. Alot of good information @ Bodybuilding.com - The Future Of Bodybuilding! Huge Bodybuilding Site. if you want to learn some basics.
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From what I understand whey and creatine are two different things. I don't think creatine has any nutritional value, it's just kind of a stimulant. You need protein both pre and post workouts to prevent the breakdown of muscle tissue.
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I know all about Creatine and that it makes you able to push yourself harder so you can gain muscle quicker...I found out that Glutamine is in creatine and there is no reason to take both...But your point about whey protien is way off...See I am 15 and weigh 90 lbs so whey protien is the best choice for me, and the best choice for anyone...It gives you the esential protien you need to gain muscle, ask any UFC fighter about it and they will recommend it for building muscle (well almost any)...Whether or not you eat meat you can always use a little bit of extra protien befroe and after a workout...What I really need to know is wether taking all three at the same time is healthy, but I now know that all I really need is the Creatine and the Whey Protien.

Yes, any UFC fighter (well almost any) will recommend protein for training, but the majority of people they would be recommending that too would be fully developed adults, not 15 year olds with bodies that are still developing. I'm not a nutritionist or anything, but I know that most people I know or have talked to online that were knowledgeable about this stuff, wouldn't recommend any supplements to somebody under 17 or 18 unless their health depended on it (which it doesn't seem like yours does). I'd say, just lift for 2 to 3 more years and then use supplements.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-11-2006, 11:24 PM
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EVERY professional fighter has VERY good nutrition. peroid end of story. YOU do not get the strength speed and endurance without the training AND good nutrition. IF YOU ARE NOT EATING ENOUGH protien, carbs, esfa's(good fats) you WILL LOOSE AS MUCH MUSCLE AS FAT=slower not as strong. Your body is a machine of science not some abstract art YOU DONT FEED= consequences.
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