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Old 01-31-2007, 07:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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According to Joe Rogan and the other UFC announcer, bare knuckles are easier on the body than the small 6 to 8 ounce gloves. I've been hit by bare knuckles when I was younger, but I've never been hit by the glove, so I couldn't tell you if Rogan was correct or not.
The reason why that is (in most cases) is that the bare knuckle will cut, split and break much easier than one under (even a thin) layer of padding. In which case, it is easier on the body because one cannot get hit repeatedly as hard without the glove due to the risk of injuring your own hand.

Does it make it hurt any less? No, probably quite the opposite. But it is vary rare to find case where someone has beaten another person to death with their bare hands (mostly with a weapon) outside of the ring, but it happens in boxing all the time.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have a question, do you know you can take him? If you know you cant beat him then go for it, but even if you have ONE doubt, dont do it,like i say... "You're only as strong as youre confidence."
I don't think that is a truly objective way to test out what he wants. Case in point:

If you happened to tussle with a guy who was 2 years older than you, outweighed you by 20 pounds, and had 4 inches of height on you but has never had a minute on the mat, is that a real indication of where your Jiu-Jitsu skills are? Maybe against the average Joe, but it won't answer any questions you may have about how you would perform against another trained student of the game.

Now the OP wants to see if fighting the local "tough kid" is going to give him any sort of indication what to work on for competition in MMA. Confident or not (I don't think he would even consider it if he thought he had no chance of winning), I don't think it will serve him any purpose in finding out what he needs to work on in comparison to other trained fighters.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a question, do you know you can take him? If you know you cant beat him then go for it, but even if you have ONE doubt, dont do it,like i say... "You're only as strong as youre confidence."
bad advice man. In a street fight there are no reffs and there is a great chance that it you start to win his friends will jump in and then your screwed. I don't care how good you are someone can still sneak up on you while your and hit you in the back of the head and ko you and just like that is over and your at this guys mercy. you cant fight this guy and all his friends.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, ive never faced the "tough kid" seeing as i am, and the reason im the toughest kid at my school is not because im big, its cuase i no BJJ, i faught a guy who was 6' feet and im 5'7 he out wieghed me by 20 pounds... I beat the @!*$# out of him in less the 35 seconds, he threw a few punches i went around him punched him in the head about 30 times and then choked him for about 1 second and said "dont retaliate after this."
Ummm... You're missing the point. Does fighting an untrained (probably unskilled) person show you how well you'd do against someone who is trained? No it doesn't.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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great advice, guess i should keep training/sparring. I have another somewhat similar question. My friends older bro said he'd be willing box with me sometime, he's a lot bigger but also doesn't have any MA training, but im sure he knows a thing or two about boxing. Would it be beneficial to have an organized boxing match against him with 16oz. gloves? At kickboxing we spar but i cant muster any adrenaline due to the slow pace and only light punches are allowed. I figure there isn't any serious danger in it and it would let me practice combinations with the threat of getting hit back hard, not to mention test out how well my footwork and head movement is. And for safety matters we dont neccesarily have to go til knockout, maybe a few rounds or something. thanks. Oh and again i dont want a win or anything, just get some sort of real combat practice in as early as i can because im really considering a future in MMA competition
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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for wanting "real combat practice" you pick the wrong people. You can spar against your friend's brother, but if he hasn't trained in boxing, what is the benefit you'll get? You may do well and then get cocky then get your ass handed to you when you try to fight against somebody with MA experience, which would take you down a peg.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Well, I don't post much here, but I thought I'd weigh in just for the heck of it.

If you think about it there are really only a couple of reasons that people 'pick' fights....not to be confused with a genuinely heated conflict.

1. Respect. They want to be respected, primarily by their friends. This is a sign of low self confidence. You need to be secure in yourself. When you achieve that there is no need to prove it to others.

2. To test themselves. People, especially young guys, want to know that they can hold up in the heat of combat.
Testing yourself against an untrained opponent doesn't prove much. You either win (might as well be picking on a smaller kid because he's untrained), or you get beat, in which case you're hurt, and possibly unable to train for a while...it's really easy to break your hands!

3. A few guys just like to hurt people. That sucks.

Certainly there is something to be gained from sparring full contact. Protect yourself. It would be foolish to take yourself out of the training game because you got a concussion, or broke something.

As far as being the 'toughest' kid in school....in the end you're just that...a kid in school....not a man. Real men don't need to prove their toughness by fighting like animals.

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its not worth it

if you have nothing to prove is not worth it unless its for fun
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