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doomed28 02-24-2007 02:00 AM

What are carbs worth to an athlete?
 
Im confused..if an athlete needs carbs for energy then how come Arlovski became the champ when he doesnt eat carbs? and please dont tell me that he used fat as fuel...he has no fat...and obviously his muscle mass wasnt being eaten away as fuel during all that training.

I.P.Freely 02-24-2007 04:28 AM

We've not seen how well Arlovski would do in a mainly ground-based fight. If the sports scientists are right, he would gas.

BTW, it's not that if you eat no carbs you waste away. It's that protein takes longer to convert into muscle glycogen, which is the fuel for movement. So without carbs your muscles tire more quickly.

That seems to be the general consensus. Not everyone agrees, but in medical science, there is someone who disagrees with almost everything.

But here is a thought: bodybuilders eat a lot of protein and no carbs, marathon runners do eat plenty of protein, but also plenty of carbs. Surely MMA fighters should be at least a little like marathon runners.

doomed28 02-24-2007 04:53 AM

the ufc hasnt seen it but I have and arlovski has always been better on the ground. Either way, shouldnt he gas in a stand up fight lasting 25 minutes for the heavyweight titie after barely eating any carbs for several years now? scientists also say that isnt humanly possible.

I.P.Freely 02-24-2007 05:10 AM

I didn't say which Arlovski is better at- I said that in the UFC he has not had long, drawn out ground wars.

Standup is less tiring than grappling.

doomed28 02-24-2007 05:21 AM

I agree but the experts are the ones saying you need carbs for energy..obviously people can do without em. It sucks that there arent a lot of long ground wars in the ufc, it must be because of all the rules being implemented. Its getting to be more and more unlike a fight all the time.
And about the last statement..you said we havent seen arlovski in a ground based fight, not the ufc in general. He was a world sambo champion before the ufc, thats ground based. Most of his early mma fights are also ground based.

But my main point is why should anyone believe science if guys like andre are proving them wrong before our very eyes? Take the xyience supplements for example..its a moneymaking endorsement for the fighters and youd think with the name resembling science..there should be a lot of science behind it but there isnt. Ive used many things years ago that are better than nox cg3 and those same old products still work better today.

flourhead 02-24-2007 10:27 AM

he eats like a million eggs and a 12 ounce steak for breakfast. are you saying theres no carbs in that?

KTS1010 02-24-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by flourhead
he eats like a million eggs and a 12 ounce steak for breakfast. are you saying theres no carbs in that?

Sounds filling!

Zuke 02-24-2007 11:14 AM

EXACTLY flourhead!!

Steaks and eggs have NO CARBS in them. They are both VERY high in high quality protein AND EFA's. Steak is also high in creatine.

Alot of fighters eat low to no carb diet before making weight. It helps them drop weight faster (along with their cutting water)But after they make weight they will do a "carb load" to have some energy the day of the fight. You also see marathon runners and bodybuilders load carbs too. But marathon runners do it for energy, and bodybuilders do it to "fill out" their muscles when they are looking flat from dieting and cutting water.

KillerG 02-24-2007 01:32 PM

Nearly every food has an amount of carbs, he just doesnt eat carb based foods. And also your body will learn to convert other energy sources more efficently to make up for it, your body is a better machine than you may think.

wukkadb 02-24-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by I.P.Freely

But here is a thought: bodybuilders eat a lot of protein and no carbs, marathon runners do eat plenty of protein, but also plenty of carbs. Surely MMA fighters should be at least a little like marathon runners.


You are entirely INCORRECT. Bodybuilders eat 2-3 grams of carbs per pound of bodyweight, and about 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. Carbs are VERY important to bodybuilders:dunno:


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