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UFC 104: Cain Velasquez vs. Ben Rothwell

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Cain Velasquez

Fighting out of: San Jose, CA
Age: 27
Height: 6 ft 1 in
Weight: 240 lb
Record: 6-0-0

Last Fight:

vs Cheick Kongo (Win- UD)


Ben Rothwell


Fighting out of: Davenport, Iowa
Age: 27
Height: 6 ft 5 in
Weight: 265 lb
Record: 30-6-0

Last Fight:
vs Chris Guillen (Win- TKO)​
 
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#5 ·
seven and a half million on Rothwell, Cain has no chin and Rothwell is possibly the most underated guy in the HW division.
 
#8 · (Edited)
lol at Cain having "no chin". It was Rothwell who fought glass chin Arlovski and couldn't knock him out, let alone beat him, right???? LMAO! Cain arguably has the best chin in the division. His defense is the only thing that is lacking.
 
#10 ·
I bet on Cain. The only way Rothwell is gonna take this is by knock out, Cain proved that he is tough to stop against Kongo. I know that Kongo isnt the most powerful striker in the UFC, but i think he hits a lot harder then Big Ben does. Cain will take a solid UD by keeping Rothwell on his back for the entire fight.
 
#11 ·
Here's how the fight simulates in Ultimate MMA 1.6.11:



I would say it's pretty obvious who would win, 1000 on the winner.
 
#14 ·
Arlovski has never been knocked out by anyone except some guys who were some of the most dangerous strikers in MMA, don't kid yourself guys like Sylvia and Rizzo were very dangerous men when they fought Arlovski, Arlovski gets to much hell for his "glass chin" he may not have an iron chin but its not like anyone can KO him. Recovery does not equal chin and those dazed takedowns may work on somebody like Kongo but they won't work on somebody with some actual TD defense, if Rothwell drops Cain he will finish him.
 
#18 · (Edited)
I think you are confusing a fighters defense with their chin. Arlovski doesn't always get knocked out because he has great defense and boxing skills. Velasquez lacks defense and head movement, but the guys with the best chins usually do. And you gotta think him having took those punches from Kongo makes him MUCH more aware of what he needs to work on. Velasquez is one of those guys that won't make the same mistake in this fight.

And you are wrong about Velasquez being dropped by every shot Kongo hit him with.

 
#16 ·
Arlovski has been knocked out 7 times, once over 10 years ago when he just started fighting and the other 6 are Rizzo, Sylvia X2, Fedor, Rogers and Ricco Rodriguez (pre drug problem when Rodriguez was a monster). Cain has fought nobody as dangerous as half the people on Arlovski's resume, we'll see what Cain's record looks like when his name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Arlovski's, Cain has fought 6 fights and one semi credible opponent who was a one dimensional striker (who dropped him what 4 times?), Arlovski has had almost 30 fights (5 times as many for those keeping score) against far more credible opponents including the #1 HW in the world and at least what 9 others who would have easily been top 10 at the time. To even try and compare Cain's record to Arlovski's is ridiculous. Cain hasn't even fought a top 10 HW yet.
 
#23 ·
Thanks peoples. I don't know, it feels like Cain is just a higher caliber athlete, but that could just be the UFC hype train talking through me. I want to pick an underdog on this card, Rothwell looks like the best shot, and I don't like betting against Machida.
 
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