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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 04:49 AM
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I think it best they dont fight again to be honest, Most ppl r over it now. Tito needs to keep fighting while waiting for chuck but who else does he fight at 205 ??? Ace and Tito would be sweet at 205 !

As for legends - id rather see two legends fight each other than a current day champ v legend. Time will always prove the younger champ to win in 99% on cases. Why not Shamrock V Gracie ????
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I think Gracie will be done in the UFC now - I'd be amazed if he came back again.

Tito does need some good opponents, but alot of the people who are at 205 are just not really great matchups imo. Let's think about who we could see:

Van Arsdale

There are a few more but obviously discounting the notion of Shamrock, Chuck & Sobral for obvious reasons. The Forrest rematch will happen at some point but not yet - too close for comfort the first time.

I'd love to see a Belfort match myself but he seems ok in Pride at the moment so I'm guessing we are not going to be seeing him anytime soon.

Stephan Bonner is probably the one who needs a step up, but I've not been impressed by him since the TUF finale, so I don't think it would be healthy to do that to him. On the other hand he got a decent contract for what he does, Leben got very much fed to the lions recently, maybe it's time to stick Stephan in a war and remind us why we ever got excited by him in the first place.
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post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 03:07 PM
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Lol - I still think they will do it again to give Ortiz something to do while he is waiting for Chuck's schedule to have an opening. The belt will come in good time, but Chuck is the target, the man was laughing at the boos of the crowd as well.
chuck wasnt laughing at the crowd booing, he was like wtf. same with couture.
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post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 03:25 PM
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that fight was beat..what i wanna know is how does shamrock act like he wasnt just taking like 5-6 elbows right after the fight was called. why act like a ****in baby, and cry and ***** the whole way back to the locker room when u just got taken down and beaten almost limp?

in retrospect from seeing the match the other night, it wasnt that bad of a call cause shmrock would have been concoussed or way worse if that would have kept going. hell, he was prob concussed from the few elbows he did brutally take!
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I am not sure there will be a #3 either. I would watch it though. Maybe a 3rd time would put all the speculation to rest. Let's have Big John ref this time too.

I can't see Shamrock retiring after a fight with Ortiz either though. Ken hates Tito so bad that I can't imagine him wanting to hear for the rest of his life that "Tito retired him" Can you imagine how that would make the man?
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post #16 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 08:57 PM
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Good, I don't want to see another Tito and Shamrock fight since obviously Tito would win again like he always does against Ken Shamrock. Ken Shamrock should just retire already before being killed in the ring. He has poor defense nowadays. I used to like him in the beginning of UFC but now hes just a terrible fighter, sorry to you Shamrock fans. I knew he was going to come out and try to throw bombs on Tito and he would just slip and get killed due to his poor defense. If Herb Dean didn't stop that fight, the next elbow Ken would have been pouring out blood.
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