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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-22-2012, 05:51 AM
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That's the thing about Folyd, without his mouth he would never be this big. His skills are amazing but its his mouth that makes him so successful. Its like the sonnen effect, btw mike tyson is one of the most racist sob ever. But everybody loves mike its crazy, dana even loves mike.
I dont agree marc. As much of a twat as he is, lets not underplay the fact that his boxing skills are legendary. That's why hes popular.
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I dont agree marc. As much of a twat as he is, lets not underplay the fact that his boxing skills are legendary. That's why hes popular.
see i gotta disagree, his skills are legendary but he does have a mouth that sells. he has been a controversial fighter his entire career with his family history etc. people tune it to watch him, a lot of casual fans tune it to see him lose etc.
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i dont see mayweathers comments as racist, is see them as factual correct.

imo its no coincidence, that the ufc are doing their first asian show and whtie´s remarks. White is throwing mayweather under the bus, to come of as the good guy in asia. He knows where the the gravy train stops next, douchebag move but busninesswise rather smart.
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i dont see mayweathers comments as racist, is see them as factual correct.

imo its no coincidence, that the ufc are doing their first asian show and whtie´s remarks. White is throwing mayweather under the bus, to come of as the good guy in asia. He knows where the the gravy train stops next, douchebag move but busninesswise rather smart.
Well, from the sounds of it, hes not factually correct at all. Other players do not do what Lin did "every night and get no praise".
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see i gotta disagree, his skills are legendary but he does have a mouth that sells. he has been a controversial fighter his entire career with his family history etc. people tune it to watch him, a lot of casual fans tune it to see him lose etc.
Pacman is a humble, quiet man and is just as popular as Floyd Mayweather. These two get so much attention because they are outstandingly good boxers.
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Lin is a story not because of his nationality but because in one week he went from a no name guy who couldn't play a minute to a guy that lead the Knicks to 7 straight wins whilst playing like the best player at his position.

Any player that does what Lin just did would get massive attention.
There is more to his story than that. After receiving no athletic scholarship offers out of high school, he elected to go to Harvard. Then Lin went undrafted out of college, signed a partially guaranteed contract deal later that year with his hometown Golden State Warriors.

Lin seldom played in his rookie season and was assigned to the National Basketball Development League (D-League) three times. He was waived by Golden State and the Houston Rockets the following preseason before joining the Knicks early in the 2011–12 season. He was again assigned to the D-League and continued to play sparingly. Then do to injuries, he got his chance to start in February and has performed at an Elite PG level.

Compare his stats over the last 10 games with the top PGs.
Lin-24.8 PPG 9.2 APG
Williams-26.9 PPG 7 APG
Rose-18.2 PPG 7.6 APG
Paul-17.9 PPG 7.8 APG
Nash-13.3 PPG 13.6 APG
Rondo-14.4 PPG 9.8 APG

Those numbers would be meaningless if the Knicks were not winning those games. However, the teams he has played against only had an overall 38% winning record. It's still to early to tell if he can do this on a consistent basis & against the better teams in the NBA. And remember that because of the shortened season & condensed schedule, there are very few practices to prepare for teams.

The hype Lin is receiving is the same hype all hot young players that perform get. And because he is doing this in NYC (media capital of the world), that is why he is getting the "Tebow" treatment.

Dana should not have responded to Floyd. Let racists like Floyd continue to show their ignorance.
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There is more to his story than that. After receiving no athletic scholarship offers out of high school, he elected to go to Harvard. Then Lin went undrafted out of college, signed a partially guaranteed contract deal later that year with his hometown Golden State Warriors.

Lin seldom played in his rookie season and was assigned to the National Basketball Development League (D-League) three times. He was waived by Golden State and the Houston Rockets the following preseason before joining the Knicks early in the 2011–12 season. He was again assigned to the D-League and continued to play sparingly. Then do to injuries, he got his chance to start in February and has performed at an Elite PG level.

Compare his stats over the last 10 games with the top PGs.
Lin-24.8 PPG 9.2 APG
Williams-26.9 PPG 7 APG
Rose-18.2 PPG 7.6 APG
Paul-17.9 PPG 7.8 APG
Nash-13.3 PPG 13.6 APG
Rondo-14.4 PPG 9.8 APG

Those numbers would be meaningless if the Knicks were not winning those games. However, the teams he has played against only had an overall 38% winning record. It's still to early to tell if he can do this on a consistent basis & against the better teams in the NBA. And remember that because of the shortened season & condensed schedule, there are very few practices to prepare for teams.

The hype Lin is receiving is the same hype all hot young players that perform get. And because he is doing this in NYC (media capital of the world), that is why he is getting the "Tebow" treatment.

Dana should not have responded to Floyd. Let racists like Floyd continue to show their ignorance.
Thanks for the info. Appreciated.
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i dont see mayweathers comments as racist, is see them as factual correct.

imo its no coincidence, that the ufc are doing their first asian show and whtie´s remarks. White is throwing mayweather under the bus, to come of as the good guy in asia. He knows where the the gravy train stops next, douchebag move but busninesswise rather smart.
If this were the only thing Mayweather had ever said about race, I wouldn't really see these words as racist, just way too simplistic. Yes, every night a black player plays as well as Lin did during the winning streak. But as has been pointed out, nobody had started their career scoring as many points, and he did it while winning on an underachieving team that was missing its two biggest stars in the media epicenter of the country.

But when you consider that Mayweather also said, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. ... Once I stomp the midget, I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice," of Pacman. And then constant stuff about how white boys can't box, and people only dislike him because he's black and "everything boils down to this 'we wanna see' this black, arrogant American lose. He shouldn't be able to live next door to me. He shouldn't be able to drive the cars I drive." I could swear the reason I want him to lose is because he's a racist douche who beats up girls.

So if Dana goes off on Mayweather for his Lin comments, it's through the prism of knowing that he already talked a lot of racist crap in general and against Asians in particular.

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F#ck Mayweather. He's over rated and a defensive player. His offense is garbage and hes boring. Hes also an idiot, scum in the ring, not that his personal life matters to the sport, I dont need athletes to be role models I have parents for that. I look to what an athlete can do with their craft. Hes great at defense which means sitting around blocking and dodging if you like that thing, and yes I am purposefully simplifying it because I hate a points fighter that is afraid to engage unless he has an overwhelming advantage in one aspect or another.

Real top notch fighters will get in there even when its not totally safe and put their a$$ on the line, having to trust in their full game. You wont see Pac dodging someone, even if he knows he has a problem with that guy like in the case of Marquez.

Just shut the f#ck up Floyd and make the fight.
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In Europe, the big football clubs sometimes buy reasonably skilled Oriental/Asian players for one reason: They sell a shit load of shirts in Asia. Whenever an Asian footballer does well in Europe, they go mad for it in their home countries. And I mean MAD. Millions of shirt sales and club memorabilia get sold off the back of it. Because of this, the clubs then publicise and play those players a little more then they would if it was based purely on skills alone. If an Asian player was to come along who was truly world class, ( as it seems Lin is ) he would be gold dust, and rightfully receive a LOT of publicity. Far more then any other world class players in his team. I don't really see a problem with it. When a particular race, who are rarely feature in top level sport, produce a star... it should be celebrated. It *is* a big deal. Ultimately, characters like Lin help to change attitudes.
Yes it's partly because he is Asian, no doubt about that, but to simply reduce it as such takes away credit.

Fact: (not really): 75% of players are black.
Fact: 90% of good players are black
Fact: There are no Asian-American players in the NBA besides Lin
Fact: NYC is the media capital of the world

Those are facts (kinda because I made up the %), so he has a point but I do not believe it's the only reason for his success. First of all the kid has talent, came out of no where, provided a spark that made everyone else on the Knicks team better, has been consistent for 2 weeks putting up numbers that are all star (20 ppg, 7-8 assists pg, 2 steals pg). He was undrafted and bounced from a few teams all unnoticed (or not given the chance possibly because he is Asian).

He has a great story, and brings excitement. If he was black would he get as much exposure? No, not because of racism but because there are already tons of talented black players (the majority). Whenever something out of the ordinary happens, people take notice. He also has a large Asian fan base.

A good example of something out of the ordinary is Nate Robinson. Nate is listed as 5'8 which is really short for NBA standards, yet is one of the most athletic guards out there. He is popular not because he is black, but popular because he can dunk on 7 footers with sass. He is noticed because he is out of the ordinary so people root for him. Same with Lin.

EDIT: Mayweather is a joke, and everything that comes out of his mouth is inflamatory. He is talented as a boxer without a doubt, but he should stick to his area of expertise. Sounds to me like he has a chip on his shoulders.

EDIT: Theauger is right on the money - I agree 100% rep.

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