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Old 02-22-2012, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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UFC bringing "Sudden Death" round to UFC on FX

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Demetrious Johnson, the talented bantamweight that now has the opportunity to be the first flyweight champion in the UFC, has signed a landmark bout agreement with ZUFFA for a ‘sudden death’ round for his fight with Ian McCall at UFC on FX. The agreement stipulates that if, after 3 rounds, the judges are undecided on a winner, the fight will go to a 4th round, also called “suuden death.” In a recent interview with TapouT Radio, Mighty Mouse detailed the particulars.

“I don’t know if anybody has said anything about it, and this is the first time I’m mentioning it, is that we (McCall and himself) had to sign for a ‘sudden death’ bout. If it goes to three rounds, and the judges can’t decide who the winner is, then we’ll do a fourth round.”

When asked if this new agreement was specific to his fight, or if it was universal for the entire card, Johnson had this to say,

“I’m assuming that it’s for me and Ian McCall. I can’t say if it’s going to be for Joseph (Benavides) and Yasuhiro (Urushitani), because I’m not gonna say that the UFC made those guys sign, too. I’m telling you, specifically, that I signed a contract for an extra round on the bout agreement. I’m not gonna say that they did. I’m assuming, in my unprofessional opinion, that they did as well.”

Whether this addendum is designed for the introduction of the flyweight division, or if it’s something the UFC is instituting for overseas cards in general, the concept is a good one. For all those times we, as fans, have said ‘One more round!’, this could be the game changer. Hopefully, we get some clarity on the permanence, or lack thereof, for this new twist.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like they've only done this for the Flyweight tournament fights, which would make sense considering they need two people in the finals.

If this was a full time thing shouldn't Alves/Kampmann have one too?
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How in the hell are they going to determine "if, after 3 rounds, the judges are undecided on a winner"- all the rounds would have been scored and unless a draw was scored how would it be determined that another round is needed?

I don't mind seeing new rules put in place for MMA judging since it is massively flawed but outside of a scored draw how can they implement that another round is needed? For a 3 round fight the majority of rounds are scored 10-9 unless a fighter wins 2 rounds 10-9 and then his opponent gets a 10-8 round scored in the fight.

I'd love to see fights scored and rounds given points differently but I can't see how this new twist will have much impact unless a draw is scored for the first 3 rounds in this fight.
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How in the hell are they going to determine "if, after 3 rounds, the judges are undecided on a winner"- all the rounds would have been scored and unless a draw was scored how would it be determined that another round is needed?

I don't mind seeing new rules put in place for MMA judging since it is massively flawed but outside of a scored draw how can they implement that another round is needed? For a 3 round fight the majority of rounds are scored 10-9 unless a fighter wins 2 rounds 10-9 and then his opponent gets a 10-8 round scored in the fight.

I'd love to see fights scored and rounds given points differently but I can't see how this new twist will have much impact unless a draw is scored for the first 3 rounds in this fight.
The only thing this is for is if there is a rare draw, the UFC wants a winner, and not be forced to do a rematch possibly. I guess they are doing a mini tournament like someone else is saying, although I never knew about this mini tournament.
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Yeah I see it with the tournament style needing to have a winner to advance but I'd honestly be more in favor of scoring rounds with a .5. There are so many rounds in MMA that are razor close and a fighter gets a full point for landing a late takedown or the stand up is so even they give it to one fighter based on "damage" or "octagon control" which is totally subjective. If a round was that close score it 10-9.5.

Adding the component of winning a round without a clear point advantage you would have fights potentially going into the 3rd round scored 19.5-20 without leaving the winner of the first 2 rounds the opportunity to coast and just preserve the win even if they lose the last round.

Scoring MMA fights is so close at times it would make fighters change their strategy knowing they could or could not have the first 2 rounds in hand and just do enough to secure a win with a 3rd round 9-10 score if they lose the round.

It would make fighters work all 3 rounds rounds knowing that they could still lose after "winning" the first 2 rounds. IMO it would make for more competitive fights knowing that even if they "won" the first 2 rounds there was a chance they could still lose the fight if a previous round was scored 10-9.5. It would also lead to more fighters who thought the fight was too close to call trying to finish the fight convincingly or end with a sub/TKO/KO.
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...I think it's a good idea, especially when the judges hand out some weird, unpredictable decisions. There are some draws that could have used a sudden death round. I think it will work to everyone's advantage, even us fans...
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At least UFC judges wont be as biased as say K-1 judges. It was so obvious. Im usually am watching K-1 Max every year. And every event when a Japanese Fighter fights a non Japanese Fighter. Plenty of times you watch the fight, and you go "for sure that non japanese guy won 2-1." And the judges know this, but they want to give the Japanese guy another chance so they just say it was a draw. And then they go to the sudden death round. Ive seen it happen too often where one fighter will overwhelmingly beat the japanese guy short of knocking him down, but somehow it still ends up in a draw. While the japanese guy has to land a couple of punches and he will steal the decision. It was just a blantant abuse of the sudden death rule. Even if you feel you already have a winner, you will just say draw just to see 1 more round of that fight.

K-1 was my main combat event, but I stopped watching it when it became clear that the event was getting as suspicious and crooked as the PRIDE events near the end of its demise. You might not see that kind of abuse in the UFC, but you will certainly see lots of sudden death rounds in fights because its easier that way, it also provides another round on an entertaining fight, even if the people had a good idea on who won 2/3 already.

Of course im not a fan of it if its permanent, but if its only temporary for the flyweight tourny, then I have no problems. But again it just goes around the original problem and masks it, which is putting more specific judging criteria so they can get it more right and accurately.
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Fights like the Diego fight needed to be 5 rounds. If not and there is a stipulation in the contract like this maybe it means it will open the door to the judges just saying this fight needs to go another round. I'm not sure if they are saying that the first three rounds are blank as far as scoring and this is the only round we will score. If thats the case then I would hope the fight is a draw at that point or it seems unfair.
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Initially I was somewhat against a five round main event, but Hendo/Shogun changed all that. Main reason was I wanted there to be a differentiation between the championship vs regular fights. More entertainment for the fans.

I'm all for sudden death...put it all on the line.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I am fine with this only for the flyweight tournament or for 3 round #1 contender fights. The only reason they put "Sudden Death" into these contracts is because it's a tournament and they need 2 clear-cut winners.
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