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Old 03-06-2012, 04:31 PM   #111 (permalink)
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socio-cultural conditioning will always keep pro steroid use in the minority, but being a minority opinion doesn't make it an inferior opinion. There was a time when the majority thought slavery was a good idea.
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Old 03-06-2012, 04:34 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I may be reading into this, but I'm sensing a little resentment for fighters having an awesome life.

I'm beginning to wonder if you actually believe what you are saying or you are just spewing emotional blunder based on deep seeded hate towards their lifestyle?


Regardless of whether or not that has any truth, I'm satisfied with you knowing that your opinion is in the minority.
Thats just you role playing being a psychotherapist. No truth to it what so ever. Kind of a crazy statement tbh but il just ignore it and pretend you didnt say that.

"Deep seeded hate towards their lifestyle"

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Old 03-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #113 (permalink)
 
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This thread is about Rampage Jackson admitting to using TRT, so please stick to that
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:14 PM   #114 (permalink)
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I'm in agreement with the few on this it seems. I actually said this in an old thread about steroid "abuse". I've no problem with steroid use in sports at all. I certainly respect Rampage for at least being honest about it whilst others lie or flat out deny it in an attempt to save face. So many of you claim foul because its "unnatural" but what about supplements and hiring nutritionists, etc? You can't drink a glass of any milk on the planet that has 30 or so grams of protein in it. It doesn't exist! The stuff virtually every pro and many of us guzzle down is made in a lab someplace and is just as unnatural. It gives you a direct advantage over someone that is trying to put on mass by eating tons of chicken and beans. I could say the same for multivitamins. Do you know how much fruit you'd need to eat to give you the 500-1000 percent of vitamin C found in one tiny chewable Fred Flinstone?? If the fighter doesn't care about their health in twenty years far be it from me to tell them how to live his or her life now...
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:02 AM   #117 (permalink)
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I'm in agreement with the few on this it seems. I actually said this in an old thread about steroid "abuse". I've no problem with steroid use in sports at all. I certainly respect Rampage for at least being honest about it whilst others lie or flat out deny it in an attempt to save face. So many of you claim foul because its "unnatural" but what about supplements and hiring nutritionists, etc? You can't drink a glass of any milk on the planet that has 30 or so grams of protein in it. It doesn't exist! The stuff virtually every pro and many of us guzzle down is made in a lab someplace and is just as unnatural. It gives you a direct advantage over someone that is trying to put on mass by eating tons of chicken and beans. I could say the same for multivitamins. Do you know how much fruit you'd need to eat to give you the 500-1000 percent of vitamin C found in one tiny chewable Fred Flinstone?? If the fighter doesn't care about their health in twenty years far be it from me to tell them how to live his or her life now...
Consuming vitamins, minerals or protein is still a natural process. There are lots of ways to do it. Its something our bodies have been doing all our lives. If somebody is low in a particular mineral, there are a myriad of ways it can be raised. Some a LOT quicker then others, granted, but still there are options. Raising testosterone levels is not in the same ball park in my opinion.

And for the record, I dont object because its bad for the fighter. I object because it gives a fighter an advantage that their opponent might not have. Ive heard the argument that all TRT does is bring the fighter up to *normal* levels. But how can anybody quantify that? How do any of us know that a fighter with low Testosterone who has just had TRT wont have big advantages over a clean fighter with moderate testosterone levels?? In my opinion, its not right or fair. Especially when considering that many of the problems are due to previous bodily abuse.
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I guess its good he came out and said he did it, but my god train!!! This stuff is legal, but I dont think it should be. If your levels are that messed up you may not need to be fighting. Ohh well he lost anyways
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