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Old 03-02-2012, 01:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Wrestlers weigh in on the same day they wrestle. What it would do is make the fighters think twice about cutting lots of weight to fight in a weight class that they may be the bigger stronger fighter.
This, and to add to that, also:

For big tournaments (Nationals, state champs, etc you need to weigh in the next day if you are still going for the podium).
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Wrestlers weigh in on the same day they wrestle. What it would do is make the fighters think twice about cutting lots of weight to fight in a weight class that they may be the bigger stronger fighter.
In college (and in multiple states, high school) there is a system for determining what weight you can wrestle at. It was instituted because of deaths related to unregulated weight cutting. There's a weight assessment at the beginning of the year that determines the lowest weight you can safely make.

Also folkstyle wrestling has much less head impact than MMA. Freestyle and especially GR could have massive blows to the head on throws, though.

Since boxing went to day before weigh ins, the death rate has declined significantly.
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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In college (and in multiple states, high school) there is a system for determining what weight you can wrestle at. It was instituted because of deaths related to unregulated weight cutting. There's a weight assessment at the beginning of the year that determines the lowest weight you can safely make.

Also folkstyle wrestling has much less head impact than MMA. Freestyle and especially GR could have massive blows to the head on throws, though.

Since boxing went to day before weigh ins, the death rate has declined significantly.
Not the state I grew up in when I wrestled.

Yes, but sameday weight cutting would not be an issue if the fighters were not cutting the enormous amounts of weight they currently are cutting. If Alves walks aroung at 197 lbs then Alves would only have to cut 12 pounds to make 185 lbs.
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A limit on how much you can gain would be good. WBC in boxing is bringing in a rule that limits a fighter to a maximum of 10% increase in weight which mean say a 168lb boxer can only go up to 184.8 for fight night.

This would be a great thing to bring into mma.
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A limit on how much you can gain would be good. WBC in boxing is bringing in a rule that limits a fighter to a maximum of 10% increase in weight which mean say a 168lb boxer can only go up to 184.8 for fight night.

This would be a great thing to bring into mma.
It would certainly be a game changer.
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Not the state I grew up in when I wrestled.

Yes, but sameday weight cutting would not be an issue if the fighters were not cutting the enormous amounts of weight they currently are cutting. If Alves walks aroung at 197 lbs then Alves would only have to cut 12 pounds to make 185 lbs.
Alves' biggest weakness is big, strong wrestlers, he'd never be an elite fighter at 185 with guys like Sonnen, Munoz, Weidman, Okami, Boestch who all cut over 200 lbs to fight at 185.

Granted Welterweight is littered with them too but could you imagine Silva/Alves? Anderson would swarf him, atleast at 170 the guys are around his size height wise.
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Why do people make such a big deal about weight? if it was that easy to win a fight when you're larger than your opponent..

Anthony Johnson would be the WW champ and wouldn't be cut from the UFC.

Brock Lesnar would NEVER LOSE

Frankie Edgar would never defend his belt

and I can go on and on

There are just as many disadvantages to weighting in more, being slower than your opponent, gassing in the second round...
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It would certainly be a game changer.
I dunno...most guys would be doing what they normally do, while freaks like Alvez coming at at 197lbs wouldnt be able to get away with it.
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Why do people make such a big deal about weight? if it was that easy to win a fight when you're larger than your opponent..

Anthony Johnson would be the WW champ and wouldn't be cut from the UFC.

Brock Lesnar would NEVER LOSE

Frankie Edgar would never defend his belt

and I can go on and on

There are just as many disadvantages to weighting in more, being slower than your opponent, gassing in the second round...
I agree with you. One of Edgars biggest advantages is not having to cut weight while Alves, who cuts lots of weight has had cardio issues.

Look at Cain, he does not cut weight and he has unbeleivable cardio.
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Alves' biggest weakness is big, strong wrestlers, he'd never be an elite fighter at 185 with guys like Sonnen, Munoz, Weidman, Okami, Boestch who all cut over 200 lbs to fight at 185.

Granted Welterweight is littered with them too but could you imagine Silva/Alves? Anderson would swarf him, atleast at 170 the guys are around his size height wise.
Those big strong wrestlers would probobly fight at the next weight class up.
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