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Don$ukh 03-06-2012 11:59 PM

The new Gegard Mousasi vs Jon Jones
 
Gegard Mousasi we know he is one the best strikers in MMA, has a great ground game and has great killer instinct with many first round wins. He has held the Strikeforce and Dream titles, Fought K1 bouts being a huge underdog and won decisively. Mousasi and Overeem single handedly made ignorant kickboxing fans recognise that top MMA strikers are world class. I just read on Wiki that he is also going to try out for the 2012 Olympics for Holland in boxing.

He then ran into King Mo Lawal who defeated him with wrestling. If you watch the fight Mousasi actually put a beating on King Mo off his back. He has a very active guard like Pettis.
Mousasi recently fought Ovince st preux where pundits backed Ovince because of his excellent wrestling and stated that is a weakness for Mousasi. When the fight came Mousasi put a wrestling clinic on Ovince just after training with Romanian olympic wrestlers for one training camp, cant remember where I heard this.

He has recently stated for the first time he is getting modern coaches for MMA for conditioning, weight cutting etc. I expect big improvements considering his previous MMA training is very outdated, maybe similiar to Rich Franklin back in Ufc 50/60s. MMA training has evolved leaps from that time.

I ask because on the LHW challengers, I can only see Mousasi having the tools to defeat Jones.
Rashad and Hendo only have a very small chance for me.

The main question is one year from now if Jon Jones is still champion how would the fight play out?

Pound&Mound 03-07-2012 12:05 AM

no

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khoveraki 03-07-2012 12:08 AM

In a K1 fight, Mousasi takes it 100/100. In a BJJ match, probably 85/100. In an MMA fight... I'd say Jones by decision 100/100 (right now).

I don't think Jones would do any damage at all to Moose, but he'd definitely win in an MMA fight. Mousasi looked great against OSP in terms of wrestling improvement, but we'll see if he's still training that hard. The guy is an absolute stud but trains by fooling around a few times a week.

Ddog0587 03-07-2012 12:10 AM

I think people really underestimate Jones' grappling. His active unorthodox striking style coupled with his ridiculous reach is more than enough for any fighter in the UFC. I believe in a year from now he will still be champ. He is still a couple years from his peak so he only gets better.

I could see this match happening next year since JBJ will have cleared most, if not all of the UFC LHWs out by then.

El Bresko 03-07-2012 12:30 AM

All the potential in the world and still young.. I think Gegard can do anything, he just has to set his priorities first.

Don$ukh 03-07-2012 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khoveraki (Post 1560128)
In a K1 fight, Mousasi takes it 100/100. In a BJJ match, probably 85/100. In an MMA fight... I'd say Jones by decision 100/100 (right now).

I don't think Jones would do any damage at all to Moose, but he'd definitely win in an MMA fight. Mousasi looked great against OSP in terms of wrestling improvement, but we'll see if he's still training that hard. The guy is an absolute stud but trains by fooling around a few times a week.

I agree with you if they fought right now apart from the BJJ bit. I would say Mousasi just edges Jones on BJJ. How many elite fighters get caught in a standing guillotine nowadays. The Machida sub was incredible.
I actually picked Machida to win that fight by close decision. It was after that fight I thought Mousasi is the only challenger who can beat him.

Mousasi was training sub par but I believe him when he says he will train like modern day elite fighters after the OSP fight.
Imagine the guy properly equipped with a modern training camp he should instantly be a better fighter and if his wrestling has improved massively from bringing Olympic calibre in one camp then he could have GSP level improvement when he focused on wrestling.

Also respect to you for having Saki in your Sig.

No_Mercy 03-07-2012 01:11 AM

I don't think people realize how talented The Dream Catcher is. He poses an interesting matchup...one I'd very much like to see. I also wanted to see him vs Anderson Silva at one point.

Meanwhile Gustaf is a legitimate threat although I don't think he's strong enough to withstand JBJ. He should be able to TKO Thiago Silva or win a UD.

So...I think what's going to happen is this.

Either JBJ beats Rashad, Hendo, Gegard, Gustaf, Shogun x 2, Machida x 2 and cleans out the division.

Then The Spider comes in and either defeats em or passes the torch to em.

Rauno 03-07-2012 04:08 AM

Mousasi loses this 10/10 and all because of wrestling. He'd beat the likes of Shogun and Rampage imo where he loses to the likes of Bader and perhaps even Tito.

HitOrGetHit 03-07-2012 08:38 AM

Right now in an MMA fight, I think Jones would take it. In a couple of years who knows. You have to remember how incredibly young Jones is as well. While Mousasi is working to improve, JBJ will be steadily improving as well.

cdtcpl 03-07-2012 08:49 AM

JBJ would destroy Mousasi, there isn't even a question in my mind. Just compare their records in terms of competition and you will see the point. You can look great against non-top competition.


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