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Who thinks Bones Jones is a dirty fighter

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#1 ·
Why would the UFC use Bones Jones spinning elbow to the back of his opponents head on a highlight reel. It's a wild reckless illegal technique. It happens so fast there is no way for him to know that it wont land to the back of the head. At that speed the official isn't going to be able to tell where exactly the blow lands. If his opponent stepped around and ko'd him with an overhand right in the same spot Joe Rogan and his mindless parrot counterpart Mike Goldberg would whip out a violin instantly. There isn't enough of an objective opinion with these two. They sound like a couple of used car salesman to me.
 
#2 ·
I don't think he is a "dirty" fighter I just think his technique is what you said, wild.

Now Joe Rogan... He's awesome. Watch some other shows and you'll wish he was there. He is a little opinionated but that's because he is a fan too. The only person I've never heard real bias from is Militich but he's no Rogan when it come to the "play by play."
 
#3 ·
No i don't think Jon jones is a dirty fighter, as u stated he does it so fast that he doesn't know where it's going to land!. Jon jones is doing nothing wrong it's a legal move so he uses it, and uses it well.
 
#4 ·
Not sure if he's dirty in the sense that his techniques are illegal, but they are definitely frowned upon.

Headbutting abdomen of opponent, stretching fingers towards opponent's eyes to discourage forward movement... no good coach tells you to do those things and a supposedly super-talented fighter who usually enjoys a size advantage should not need to use such techniques.

Sure it messes with opponents mentally and is part of the formula that wins his fights, but I find it unnecessary. Spinning elbows are fine, the one he dropped Bonnar with was blatantly illegal but my memory may be wrong. Either way, it wasn't called into question.
 
#7 ·
I wouldn't call Jone's dirty, but he is definitely careless and reckless with the way he fights, nothing wrong with it. Best way I can describe Jones is grimey, as he's the type of guy who doesn't care if the damage he inflicts is career ending. He needs to fight a Frank Mir type of fighter IMO, I think that kind of person will put him in his place.
 
#13 ·
..No. Jones is not a dirty fighter. His spinning elbow is a legal move that is very effective. He does the same sidekick to the knee or thigh as Machida does. When you have the longest reach in MMA, it's easy for him to over-extend on smaller fighters. It's not on purpose. The only time he choked was when he dropped those 12/6 elbows directly on Hamill's face. I'm sure he didn't intentionally do it. It was a heat of the moment thing which cost him a DQ. His skillset is mad and with that incredible reach he can really posture up in the guard and land wicked shots and elbows from a mile out. Look at that one nasty, slicing elbow he hit Machida with. That one elbow turned the tide in that fight...
 
#15 ·
He's not "dirty" in any sense, a spinning back elbow is not illegal in any way. The fact that it landed on the back of the head is a foul, but one what would have been inconsequential because Bonnar recovered enough to continue even without a pause from the ref.

HOWEVER, the 12-6s to Hamill (stupid rule or not) were illegal, as were the chin-butts to Bader's core. So if you want to use those as references yes, you can argue for a certain level of "dirtiness."

I don't think Jones is dirty, he's just undisciplined. Its a minute, but important difference.
 
#18 ·
I think whenever a person reaches some form of success in their life, there will always be those who are envious. They will constantly try to find faults with those they are envious of. These people are referred to as haters.

Be a fight fan, not a fanboy.
 
#19 ·
Not a Jones fan but not near the hater I once was. I thought the 12-6 elbows he landed on Hamill wasn't that big of a deal because he honestly didn't know they were illegal.

The only dirty thing I've seen him do is flip Rampage after the bell.
 
#21 ·
Didn't he headbutt Baders stomach over and over? He used his chin but a headbutt remains a headbutt. Then there were the 12-6 elbows that everybody knows are illegal. You'd have to be very naive to think a professional fighter doesn't know these rules.

Doesn't really matter though, all fighters are dirty because they all cut weight.
 
#22 ·
Those spinning elbows were actually what caught my attention with this kid. Thought it was pretty creative! He's no more dirty than some of the other fighters...I think he wants to maim his opponents and finish them as viciously possible. He finishes em, but not stylistically the way Anderson does...

Dirty is dude not touching gloves and swinging immediately, eye pokes, grabbing the fence, holding the shorts, foot stomps, and especially Hendo covering Anderson's mouth. That shit must be annoying.

Didn't particularly like the way he dropped Machida onto the ground though...but it's war...it is what it is.
 
#24 ·
He walks the line a little bit, dirty though is much too strong a word. That makes it appear as if he does illegal things in the cage, he doesn't. He does kind of bush league things a lot. Hand on the face/throat, attacking the front of the knee, chin in the cheat, headbutting, those aren't dirty, but it's also not exactly the cleanest fighting in the UFC. But this is fighting, there is no reason to flip that a guy is doing things that might not be the most honorable in the cage.
 
#26 ·
A dirty fighter? How about a winner. That's what the sport's about. It's about winning. If it gets dirty enough, you get a DQ and you lose. Anything inside of that is fine by me. All this honor and code stuff you can throw right out the window. This is for cash and titles. There is no dirty. Your record doesn't reflect how you won, just that you won. Get the W. If you think I'm a bad guy for saying that, that's fine. But if you don't think every single fighter that steps into the cage, or onto the court or field doesn't feel that way, you're mistaken.
 
#27 ·
There's nothing wrong with the way Bones fights.

There's no rule against using your hand to keep someone at distance like he did against Rampage, there's no rule against kicking anyone in the knee like he did to Shogun and Rampage and as far as Machida goes, he could have tapped but he's said before he'll never tap, that's what happens when you decide to use that approach. What was Jones supposed to do? Lay him down gently?
 
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