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Old 03-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh, I see- it's the corporations that are the problem.

You're taking something without paying for it. I mean, I totally get it; there are lots of reasons for not being happy about having to pay (what the cards cost, you would never buy 'em anyway, etc).

But when you boil it all the way down, you're a thief.

And I don't give a sh!t, really; I just wish people wouldn't rationalize it.

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Old 03-21-2012, 12:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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They all believe a pirated copy is a sale they are not getting. Suggesting, if a person was not able to get it for free they would automatically buy it, resulting in a sale. This mentality is beyond ignorant.
Bingo. I "pirate" most MMA PPVs because I can't afford them. As in, if there was no possible way to view it other than paying for it, I wouldn't watch it. They're not losing any money from me. So they can piss off.

Signed, a pirate. (who runs an actual pirate site. yarrrrrr!)
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hopefully they shut down all of these sites, it's not the UFC's fault people can't go out and get jobs or don't have enough friends to chip in.
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Oh, I see- it's the corporations that are the problem.

You're taking something without paying for it. I mean, I totally get it; there are lots of reasons for not being happy about having to pay (what the cards cost, you would never buy 'em anyway, etc).

But when you boil it all the way down, you're a thief.

And I don't give a sh!t, really; I just wish people wouldn't rationalize it.

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It just isn't that simple. It's a bit like an outdoor cinema and someone sitting on a hill watching the film for free.

The UFC aren't losing money, in many cases they will have gained fans in countries where the even was not shown on TV.

It's funny because Dana gets so irate about this stuff, but you cannot win the war against piracy.
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It just isn't that simple. It's a bit like an outdoor cinema and someone sitting on a hill watching the film for free.

The UFC aren't losing money, in many cases they will have gained fans in countries where the even was not shown on TV.


It's funny because Dana gets so irate about this stuff, but you cannot win the war against piracy.
Or in countries where MMA is borderline illegal because the media persecute it. Like in my case.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It just isn't that simple. It's a bit like an outdoor cinema and someone sitting on a hill watching the film for free.

The UFC aren't losing money, in many cases they will have gained fans in countries where the even was not shown on TV.

It's funny because Dana gets so irate about this stuff, but you cannot win the war against piracy.
Again, that's rationalizing.

The product was produced with profit in mind, and complete ownership for all its rights and distributuion resides with Zuffa.

Downloaders are completely aware of this, but evade and rationalize with excuses and arguments.

If you choose to sit on the hill and watch the movie for free, yet you know that you were supposed to pay for it, what does that make you?

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I’m actually a bit shocked at my own ignorance… I genuinely didn’t expect there to be such support for this ruling on this forum… My surprise based on the fact that anyone who spends time on this forum would be a fan of the sport and would appreciate what the UFC has done for the sport… but apparently not.

I regularly fork over $55 ($45 when the misses relegates me to the basement) to watch from the comfort of my home – last year I paid for at least six events (might have been as many as ten?) and I don’t enjoy opening my Direct TV statement. So I can see why people prefer not to pay and watch for free… But people, let’s be honest here – regardless of the Court’s judgment – watching a pirated live feed is for all intense and purposes stealing – oh you can justify it to yourself and your friends however you like – but its still stealing.

Example – I like to eat apples but refuse to pay for them when they cost $1.00 each. So when apples are $1.00 each, the store won’t be selling any to me. So it’s ok to just to take them right? Err No – that’s called stealing. In the same way that the people on this forum claiming that they if they have to pay $50 to watch a ppv event they won’t buy it – so when they watch a pirate feed the UFC isn’t losing anything – yeah, that argument is silly and frankly not worthy of my seven-year old…

I’m betting that most of the pro pirating comments come from people living at home, who’s parents aren’t fans of MMA and who don’t allow their kids to watch the ppv fights – those same people are under 21 so can’t get into a sports bar either – well yay! This judgment is for you!

But it’s still stealing!

Be careful though, because like other “gateway” recreations internet piracy is just the satrt. First it's ripping off the UFC. Before you know it you’re staring in your very own version of grand theft auto – (internet piracy = gateway crime) then you get caught, put away for a few years. While playing hide the sausage in D block, you pick up some prison ink, train a bit and all of a sudden you’re on the Belator undercard bitching that you can’t make a living from fighting because too many people watch on the internet for free…

I don’t care how many apples you steal – stop pissing on yourself and telling everyone it’s raining outside.

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Old 03-22-2012, 02:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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RE: piracy = stealing (hint: it's not stealing - the apple analogy is stupid, since in that example, the apple goes missing. Stealing = loss of physical property.)

RE: rationalizing/justifying - Every side of this debate = rationalizing/justifying. I don't see how that is any sort of an argument at all. o_O

Also, LOL @ the "gateway" theory there. What's next, a McCarthyist rant?

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