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Old 03-21-2012, 12:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Justin.tv Not Guilty Of 'Stealing Cable' When Users Stream UFC Matches

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In essence, Zuffa alleges that Justin.tv’s users copied Zuffa’s UFC event and then rebroadcast the UFC event over the internet. This is not the type of conduct properly addressed by the Communications Act, but by copyright law (and, potentially, trademark law) because Justin.tv had no relationship with the original cable or satellite signal: by the allegations, Justin.tv did not receive or intercept any actual cable or satellite signal or broadcast. The Court finds no evidence in the statutory language, other cases, or legislative history that the Communications Act addresses this type of conduct or was meant to bolster or act as a separate type of copyright claim.


if the Court were to allow claims such as these, it would have to allow similar Communications Act claims against scores of “cloud computing” service providers such as Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon.com, Dropbox, Box.net, and others because Jusint.tv’s [sic] particular streaming service would be irrelevant. As an example, say a person took a snippet (or longer) of video of a UFC match being broadcast on their television with their iPhone, Windows Phone, etc. The iPhone then automatically uploads that video to one of dozens of cloud storage systems such as Apple’s iCloud. The Court refuses to find that Apple (or Microsoft, etc.) would be liable under the Communications Act for merely receiving and storing this data under the Communications Act. Yet, Zuffa arguesfor exactly this result when it argues that Justin.tv’s mere receipt of this video stream makes Justin.tv liable. In passing the Communications Act, Congress did not intend such a result, and this Court will not broaden the effect of the statute in this manner
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yay for the bolded part.

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I agree with the technicality of the ruling, but I still think it's wrong just like I think movie bootleggers are in the wrong.
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yay for the bolded part.

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Seems a silly line to pursue for UFC lawyers. That target they are aiming for is an impossible goal and almighty to implement across all those providers and content/social media sites and blogs. Should have used their common sense and went after them in a different way
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The UFC, Video game Publishers, Movie and Music producers all share a similar delusion. They all believe a pirated copy is a sale they are not getting. Suggesting, if a person was not able to get it for free they would automatically buy it, resulting in a sale. This mentality is beyond ignorant. It's just another corporation playing the victim.

The UFC would have not sustained it's popularity if not for the Internet. In many cases those who pirate an Event from time to time are customers as well.

They should leave it alone and spend the money they are wasting on it on something that can actually help improve the industry.
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Like with any piracy, offer a better service. Do they expect their target audience (young males) to fork out 50 bucks every couple weeks, when it's online for free? Just look how rich FPSrussia is from youtube, all from ad money. The ufc needs to get on board with the internet, it's going to destroy cable soon enough.
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The UFC, Video game Publishers, Movie and Music producers all share a similar delusion. They all believe a pirated copy is a sale they are not getting. Suggesting, if a person was not able to get it for free they would automatically buy it, resulting in a sale. This mentality is beyond ignorant. It's just another corporation playing the victim.

The UFC would have not sustained it's popularity if not for the Internet. In many cases those who pirate an Event from time to time are customers as well.

They should leave it alone and spend the money they are wasting on it on something that can actually help improve the industry.
Oh, I see- it's the corporations that are the problem.

You're taking something without paying for it. I mean, I totally get it; there are lots of reasons for not being happy about having to pay (what the cards cost, you would never buy 'em anyway, etc).

But when you boil it all the way down, you're a thief.

And I don't give a sh!t, really; I just wish people wouldn't rationalize it.

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