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Old 03-26-2012, 09:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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With UFC Commitment, Can Canada Maintain Its Designation as Mecca of MMA?

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“(Canada) has been the mecca for mixed martial arts ever since we set foot in this country,” UFC president Dana White recently stated when talking about his company’s commitment to Canada over the next few years.

With Brazil entering the picture with swiftly selling events, the first international edition of The Ultimate Fighter, and a rematch between UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen apparently headed towards an attendance-record-setting event in Rio de Janeiro, the question now is whether or not Canada can maintain its grasp on mecca status.

The UFC has only operated eight events in Canada since its first show in Montreal in 2008, but they’ve amassed some rather impressive statistics during that span.

“Over 200,000 fans have attended in three host cities: Montreal, Vancouver, and Toronto. Over $40 million in gate. God knows what the economic impact of holding these events was,” said White at a press conference in Calgary, announcing UFC 149 and a three-year, three-events-per-year commitment to Canada.

“The first one in Montreal was huge. People flew in from all over the world. Broke records, the North American (MMA attendance) record in Toronto, where people came in from all over the world.”

UFC 129, the Toronto event that White mentioned, drew over 55,000 fans for more than $12 million in gate receipts, pushing the eight-event average to roughly 25,000 in attendance per event.

White, at the Calgary press conference, not only announced UFC 149 for Calgary, UFC 152 for Toronto, and UFC 154 for Montreal, in 2012, but added that the promotion will return at least three times per year annually through 2014.

Brazil may have leap-frogged Canada in the race to become the first international location for the UFC’s long-running reality series with The Ultimate Fighter: Brasil, but Canada will have ample opportunity to defend its designation as the mecca of MMA.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think these designations are silly, to be honest. Does there have to be any one country where MMA is most popular or most sought after? Nonsense like this only sparks arguing, lol. Canada loves MMA, but so does the US, and so does Brazil, and so does the UK. It's a silly term, imo.
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I think these designations are silly, to be honest. Does there have to be any one country where MMA is most popular or most sought after? Nonsense like this only sparks arguing, lol. Canada loves MMA, but so does the US, and so does Brazil, and so does the UK. It's a silly term, imo.
Exactly, this is Dana doing his ass kissing thing.
There will come a point where Dana will need to mature or be replaced as the PR guy for the UFC, IMO.I dont think that because of this article but because of about 75% of his other "quotes". UFC is going main stream and Dana will need to start acting like a professional at some point.IMHO.
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I think it is dumb, but if anywhere is...it is Brazil.

Not sure how Canada even gets the name...Dana White is just kissing ass. They have great turn out. That is for sure.

But when does actually have MMA fighters come into play? How can you be the Mecca when you have no fightes coming out of it? They have GSP...And I guess everyone wants to anoint Rory as "special" Although it is way to early to tell with him.

Brazil had Royce Gracie who started the UFC. Brazil has several champions. Brazil has a crazy amount of great fighters. Brazil is going to sellout an 80,000 seat soccer stadium.

If anywhere it is Brazil...but it is stupid anyway.
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I think it is dumb, but if anywhere is...it is Brazil.

Not sure how Canada even gets the name...Dana White is just kissing ass. They have great turn out. That is for sure.

But when does actually have MMA fighters come into play? How can you be the Mecca when you have no fightes coming out of it? They have GSP...And I guess everyone wants to anoint Rory as "special" Although it is way to early to tell with him.

Brazil had Royce Gracie who started the UFC. Brazil has several champions. Brazil has a crazy amount of great fighters. Brazil is going to sellout an 80,000 seat soccer stadium.

If anywhere it is Brazil...but it is stupid anyway.
And this is the type of arguing I was hoping to avoid. Canada is producing no fighters? I disagree and suggest you watch the undercards, as there are some upcoming talents you'd be silly to dismiss. There's really no question that Brazil produces the best fighters worldwide, but the 'Canada has no one' mentality is narrow minded. Canada also has several of its own MMA organizations, and many are happy to fight here.

As for Brazil's selling out an 80,000 seat soccer stadium... Toronto sold out the 75,000 seat Skydome. That's kind of a big deal in and of itself. I'll wait and see if Brazil actually fills that stadium before I comment on it.

I agree, it's a dumb term. But it's a dumb term because it leads people to make comments the likes of 'Canada produces nobody'. It's DW stirring up shite between countries, and this is the end result. It's like me coming in here and saying the only reason the US has a legitimate number of solid fighters is because it throws enough shit at the wall to see what sticks.
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And this is the type of arguing I was hoping to avoid. Canada is producing no fighters? I disagree and suggest you watch the undercards, as there are some upcoming talents you'd be silly to dismiss. There's really no question that Brazil produces the best fighters worldwide, but the 'Canada has no one' mentality is narrow minded. Canada also has several of its own MMA organizations, and many are happy to fight here.

As for Brazil's selling out an 80,000 seat soccer stadium... Toronto sold out the 75,000 seat Skydome. That's kind of a big deal in and of itself. I'll wait and see if Brazil actually fills that stadium before I comment on it.

I agree, it's a dumb term. But it's a dumb term because it leads people to make comments the likes of 'Canada produces nobody'. It's DW stirring up shite between countries, and this is the end result. It's like me coming in here and saying the only reason the US has a legitimate number of solid fighters is because it throws enough shit at the wall to see what sticks.
I didn't intend for you to get all offended.

Do I mean they have ZERO..None...No fighters? No? But they have few top guys. That cannot be disputed. Exactly...look at the prelims. Not the main events.

I'm not saying 80,000 people means they are the Mecca. I'm saying when you add that, to Royce, to their champions (Anderson, Aldo, JDS...past champs Wandy, Shogun, Nog, Rizzo, Vitor, Machida) and their countless other top fighters. Brazil is MMA. It is a fighting nation.

When you add that all up you have to say Brazil is. And I really don't get what they meant by saying Canada is the "Mecca". I thought Mecca was sort of a word for where it started and grew. Canada didn't join the MMA scene until late.

Not trying to get anyone riled up as I think it is dumb. I just think clearly Brazil is the Mecca if we are going to call anything the Mecca.

Actually the U.S. or Japan is the Mecca as they were the 2 countries with big time promotions in teh early days. Japan more so then. And U.S. now.

U.S., Brazil, and Japan all qualify for the term "Mecca" more so than Canada does. But really there is no Mecca because MMA involves many styles...many of them as old as dirt and coming from all walks of the world. There is no one place that was the birth. Nothing was really born in Canada though.

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When you add that all up you have to say Brazil is. And I really don't get what they meant by saying Canada is the "Mecca". I thought Mecca was sort of a word for where it started and grew. Canada didn't join the MMA scene until late.

Not trying to get anyone riled up as I think it is dumb. I just think clearly Brazil is the Mecca if we are going to call anything the Mecca.

Actually the U.S. or Japan is the Mecca as they were the 2 countries with big time promotions in teh early days. Japan more so then. And U.S. now.

U.S., Brazil, and Japan all qualify for the term "Mecca" more so than Canada does. But really there is no Mecca because MMA involves many styles...many of them as old as dirt and coming from all walks of the world. There is no one place that was the birth. Nothing was really born in Canada though.
I think you're missing the point.

I imagine why Canada is such an exciting place for the UFC to hold events is, the Canadian fans are so accepting of fighters regardless of race / nationality / age / etc...

When you have fights in the States, or Brasil, it's common to boo the opposite fighters based on where they're from. And that's just bad for the sport. I'm not saying Canada doesn't do this at all, but generally Canadians don't really care where the fighters are from...

Brasil definitely is doing some impressive things for the sport, but they are so passionate for their fighters. Somewhere like Canada (which is made up of a mixed bag of immigrants) appreciates the sport on every level as opposed to mostly showing just love for their own fighters/what their country has done for the sport.
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I think you're missing the point.

I imagine why Canada is such an exciting place for the UFC to hold events is, the Canadian fans are so accepting of fighters regardless of race / nationality / age / etc...

When you have fights in the States, or Brasil, it's common to boo the opposite fighters based on where they're from. And that's just bad for the sport. I'm not saying Canada doesn't do this at all, but generally Canadians don't really care where the fighters are from...

Brasil definitely is doing some impressive things for the sport, but they are so passionate for their fighters. Somewhere like Canada (which is made up of a mixed bag of immigrants) appreciates the sport on every level as opposed to mostly showing just love for their own fighters/what their country has done for the sport.
They defiantly do care where they are from. Even so, how is the U.S. that bad at it? Did they not go nuts when Anderson sub'd Sonnen...an AMerican in Oakland...which is pretty close to Sonnen's area in Oregon? Did they root that much for Cain over JDS? I would argue more U.S. fans cheered for JDS in that fight. Do American fans not cheer for GSP? I don't see the point here. They cheer for guys they love....they cheer for Wandy like mad. People in the U.S. backed Nog over Mir in both fights. Saying they "boo" whoever isn't American isn't true at all.

Canada is a mixed bag? But the U.S. isn't?

I just don't understand the term "Mecca" perhaps people have different meanings of it than I do.

Last Canadian card they didn't have a Canadian on any of the top 3 fights? Who are they going to boo? They certainly do cheer like mad for Canadians and root against their opponents.

I sort of get what you are saying. But again I don't. Because Canada supposedly respects all fighters that means they are the Mecca of MMA? Not sure I follow you here.

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Isn't there a Fatwa calling for the death of anyone who calls anything the "Mecca of" anything?


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Last Canadian card they didn't have a Canadian on any of the top 3 fights? Who are they going to boo? They certainly do cheer like mad for Canadians and root against their opponents.
I guess you missed the main event at the Skydome, where Canadians spent the final rounds cheering Jake Shields over GSP

Of course Canada has its hometown heroes that it cheers for. Every country does. That said, Canada cheers FIGHTERS above all else, which is more than I can say for our neighbours to the south. 'USA! USA! USA!'
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