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Old 04-05-2012, 05:47 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Your acting like this is unusual, you don't remember the Balco raids? The government has stepped in, in many other sports. Also we don't know what the UFC can test for under their contracts.

Anyways I do think these camps in Florida really need to be looked into. A number of very suspicious fighters come out of those florida camps.
They didn't go after the sports. They went after the designer steroid companies and the sports happened to be involved.

What do UFC contracts have to do with it? I'm sure they can test any of their fighters but, it's not like everyone in the UFC trains with just people from the UFC.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:55 AM   #52 (permalink)
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They didn't go after the sports. They went after the designer steroid companies and the sports happened to be involved.

What do UFC contracts have to do with it? I'm sure they can test any of their fighters but, it's not like everyone in the UFC trains with just people from the UFC.
Because now that the UFC is paying health costs they get to go around fighters medical privacy.

Also yes the government does go after certain sports, John Ashcroft made it his mission to try and clean up baseball. Every-time Jose Canseco named a name it became a government issue.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:52 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I don't get what you mean. What test was "random" and right after a fight? These were all after the press conference, two months before the fight.
whoops my bad, I thought they meant the post-fight press conference. This is a good start then.

I doubt Overeem will get caught off guard with this one since it was part of his conditions for getting the Lesnar fight.

What this probably means though is that IMHO Overeem would have had to go off the juice for this fight, and will look like absolute shit come fight night.

Don't be surprised to see him gas in Rd 1 and get KOd ... the forums will be ablaze about how he looked bad because of blah injury
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Don't be surprised to see him gas in Rd 1 and get KOd ... the forums will be ablaze about how he looked bad because of blah injury
what fight?

Overeem is out. He can't get a licence with testosterone levels that high.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:27 PM   #55 (permalink)
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whoops my bad, I thought they meant the post-fight press conference. This is a good start then.

I doubt Overeem will get caught off guard with this one since it was part of his conditions for getting the Lesnar fight.

What this probably means though is that IMHO Overeem would have had to go off the juice for this fight, and will look like absolute shit come fight night.

Don't be surprised to see him gas in Rd 1 and get KOd ... the forums will be ablaze about how he looked bad because of blah injury
All good.

I assume you've seen the rest of the forum and seen that he failed though.

It is weird that he failed though, because like you said, he knew he was going to be tested twice during a six month window. You would think he'd stop doing anything that could be detected in a urinalysis. Especially since he knew in advance that he'd be going into the jurisdiction of the AC that he owed two tests to.

I'd normally say that there's a chance for a false positive and not to rush to judgement, but at a 14:1 T:E reading, I'd say the odds are incredibly small.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:17 AM   #56 (permalink)
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No, not sneaky. Random. Which is the only way you'll ever curb PED use.

They need to pull fighters out of line at the grocery store, or from dinner at a restaurant, out of a movie, or wake them up in the middle of the night.

Athletes need to believe they could be tested at any time... literally.
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Because now that the UFC is paying health costs they get to go around fighters medical privacy.

Also yes the government does go after certain sports, John Ashcroft made it his mission to try and clean up baseball. Every-time Jose Canseco named a name it became a government issue.
But the Federal Government has a much higher involvement with MLB, NFL, NHL, and NBA. The reason is they have an antitrust exemption. Along with this exemption comes more governmental oversight.

The UFC does not have this exemption, yet at least.
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All good.

I assume you've seen the rest of the forum and seen that he failed though.

It is weird that he failed though, because like you said, he knew he was going to be tested twice during a six month window. You would think he'd stop doing anything that could be detected in a urinalysis. Especially since he knew in advance that he'd be going into the jurisdiction of the AC that he owed two tests to.

I'd normally say that there's a chance for a false positive and not to rush to judgement, but at a 14:1 T:E reading, I'd say the odds are incredibly small.
Yeah I saw the commotion right after holming mentioned it here ... the guy's just dumb, or maybe he was too afraid of the withdrawal and thought he could still cheat the tests somehow.

He deserves what he gets, it's about time this horsemeat farce ended.
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