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Old 04-08-2012, 03:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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sure the steroids tarnish a little bit what he accomplished, but not totally wrecked it. I mean, if I shoot steroids it's not gonna make me a great kickboxer overnight. The man still has to work on his skills.
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alberto contador got off with a failed steroids test by claiming the steak he ate for dinner the evening before the test was tainted . who's saying the reem won't pull the same defence .

theres plenty of time to pay his local butcher to get some "enhanced" horse meat in .
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alberto contador got off with a failed steroids test by claiming the steak he ate for dinner the evening before the test was tainted . who's saying the reem won't pull the same defence .

theres plenty of time to pay his local butcher to get some "enhanced" horse meat in .
Not sure what you are talking about there. Contador was stripped of his tour de france title and handed a ban that keeps him out of the next tour also for blood doping.

He was given the right to appeal, as all people should be including Overeem. The CAS rejected his story as unlikely given the evidence and other, more likely reasons for his positive test.

This will probably be the same for Overeem, but he should still be given the right to plead his case.
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sure the steroids tarnish a little bit what he accomplished, but not totally wrecked it. I mean, if I shoot steroids it's not gonna make me a great kickboxer overnight. The man still has to work on his skills.
hmm not sure I agree with that one ... IMO his resurgence was pretty obviously all steroids. Yeah obviously average Joe + steroids =/= UFC GOAT, but Steroids + mediocre fighter = a contender apparently.

Before steroids he got destroyed by pretty much every top 10 LHW he ever faced. He didn't beat anyone of note at all other than Vitor at his worst, before he started balooning up mysteriously.

Based on that it would seem Alistair Overeem = Mediocre. Ubereem = Contender.
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hmm not sure I agree with that one ... IMO his resurgence was pretty obviously all steroids. Yeah obviously average Joe + steroids =/= UFC GOAT, but Steroids + mediocre fighter = a contender apparently.

Before steroids he got destroyed by pretty much every top 10 LHW he ever faced. He didn't beat anyone of note at all other than Vitor at his worst, before he started balooning up mysteriously.

Based on that it would seem Alistair Overeem = Mediocre. Ubereem = Contender.
Another example being Chael Sonnen.

Chael before he starts abusing TRT = mediocre, loses badly to the likes of Damian Maia. Chael abusing TRT and chronic bacne = contender.
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A 6:1 ratio is legal, so he was not 14x over
Why make things up and then tell me I'm wrong?

I never said he was 14x past legal. I said he was 14x the norm. A normal adult man's testosterone level is 1:1 from what I read.

I said he was 14x the norm.
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I watched his last hearing live. A guy Ustreamed it from his iphone.

I thought no way he was getting out of the last one with the bullshit he spewed to them. But they bought it.

Overeem is a liar who got away with it before. Then he has the nerve to do this when he knows he was getting tested. Pathetic.
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This is a joke.

WHy in hell are they waiting? So JDS has what a month of knowing who he will fight? People buying tickets have no clue what is going on. What a joke.

What is he going to do? Give some dumb excuse of how he left the country and his doctor gave him wrong tests and the horse meat he's been getting in the US is filled with testosterone?

The man had 14-1 ratio. This is a total waste of time. If NV commission were to licence him then we basically should not go by any rules. It would be a shame if Overeem got the same or less of a suspension as Diaz will get. One guy is hulking up and has testosterone levels 14 times the norm...the other guy smoked a few doobers. Society today is a joke.

Only in America can a guy leave the country and take 1 test 2 weeks late. Get a slap on the wrist and told we are watching you. Random test him and he shows up 14:1 and somehow there is a legit hearing on if he can be licenced?

Joke. Bigger Joke that Dana is holding out some hope and waiting till that date to let anyone know what is going on.

Overeem is a joke. Has always been a joke. Will be entertaining to watch him lie again and act innocent.
So are you saying that somebody should be convicted of something just based on an accusation with out ever having his day in court? I think that would be a FAR bigger joke!

I am sure the UFC has somebody already lined up, but they can NOT jump the gun and take the guy off the fight card before he is denied his license, it would be just like frying a guy for murder before a jury hears the case.

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alberto contador got off with a failed steroids test by claiming the steak he ate for dinner the evening before the test was tainted . who's saying the reem won't pull the same defence .

theres plenty of time to pay his local butcher to get some "enhanced" horse meat in .
Pretty much nothing of the above is true. He tested positive for clenbuterol (a banned decongestant) that he had very VERY small amounts in his blood. He claimed contamination, and oddly enough, that drug IS the most widely found contamination in meat.

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Not sure what you are talking about there. Contador was stripped of his tour de france title and handed a ban that keeps him out of the next tour also for blood doping.

He was given the right to appeal, as all people should be including Overeem. The CAS rejected his story as unlikely given the evidence and other, more likely reasons for his positive test.

This will probably be the same for Overeem, but he should still be given the right to plead his case.
He is talking about the clenbuterol, not the blood doping.

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Why make things up and then tell me I'm wrong?

I never said he was 14x past legal. I said he was 14x the norm. A normal adult man's testosterone level is 1:1 from what I read.

I said he was 14x the norm.
14x the norm is true, for the average male. 2:1-4:1 can be normal for an extremely athletic male. 14:1 can be normal for Seabiscut.
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