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(look under Casualties and Losses)

This is without taking into account the fact that the war was fought mostly in America, so the American numbers account for civilian casualties in addition to troops
, whereas the brit numbers are all soldiers and sailors. So on a per soldier basis, it's likely America lost less, even though a majority of theirs were semi-trained militia.
The civilians in America were British, only the rebel troops were really "American".
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Wow not sure how a thread about Overeem possibly being cleared to fight turned into a debate about the revolutionary war but let's get back on topic.


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So #1 UFC heavyweight title contender Alistair Overeem failed a late March surprise drug test administered by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) for having a testosterone to epitestosterone ratio level higher than five men of Krypton and is now scheduled to appear before the commission in one week to ask for a license to face champ Junior Dos Santos May 26th. But not to worry, Reem fans: Alistair’s manager assures that his fighter will have a “reasonable explanation” for his unreasonable levels, according to Inside MMA‘s Ron Kruck, via CagedInsider.

“I spoke with Glenn Robinson, manager of Overeem and he says he is very respectful and is hopeful that he will be granted his license and the entire team is very confident that he will be facing Junior dos Santos come May 26th,” Kruck said.

“Now Robinson wanted to make it very clear that despite other reports, Overeem did not test high for testosterone, but rather his testosterone to epitestosterone was off and he has a reasonable explanation to why that is, which he will present to the commission next Tuesday.”

If the UFC hadn’t refused to replace Overeem to this point and rule out most viable possible replacements should he not get licensed — and if the NSAC wasn’t in a tricky position of dealing with their first-ever positive test from an out-of-competition surprise test, coupled with their past openness to allowing therapeutic use exemptions for things like testosterone replacement therapy — we’d say Robinson was nuts for thinking his client would get licensed. But as it stands, who knows?

Overeem can still apply for a TUE, and the commission can grant it. We’ll see what defense he gives and if the commission will buy it, in light of his toying with their emotions regulations before his last fight.
Overeem-JDS will happen imo. No way everybodies so confident without a reason.

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Wow not sure how a thread about Overeem possibly being cleared to fight turned into a debate about the revolutionary war but let's get back on topic.
Overeem = TRT = Sonnen = All american asshole = Yea, but at least we won the war = free for all banter.

Completely logical conversation chain if you ask me.
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Overeem = TRT = Sonnen = All american asshole = Yea, but at least we won the war = free for all banter.

Completely logical conversation chain if you ask me.
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The civilians in America were British, only the rebel troops were really "American".
Talk about silly semantics. Some crown order over their head for the next few years didn't make them english. They didn't just magically wake up one morning in 1783 with a funny feeling, looked in the mirror and suddenly had a McDonalds in one hand and a coke in the other.

They were born in America, died in America, followed the American traditions of the time, as a people and for the sake of counting casualties, they were American.

I suppose India, half of Asia, and Africa were "british" too, until they just woke up one fine tuesday and realized they weren't.
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Talk about silly semantics. No, some crown order over their head for the next few years didn't make them english. They didn't just magically wake up one morning in 1783 with a funny feeling, looked in the mirror and suddenly had a McDonalds in one hand and a coke in the other.

They were born in America, died in America, followed the American traditions of the time, as a people and for the sake of counting casualties, they were American.

I suppose India, half of Asia, and Africa were "british" too, until they just woke up one fine tuesday and realized they weren't.
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Final warning. Get back on topic or the thread will be closed.


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Reem didn't fail for the presence of a synthetic agent he failed for a high T/E ratio.

A blood test is more accurate but it doesn't matter. A private test done on a separate day will be irrelevant.

Unless Reem is going to argue that he has abnormally low epitestosterone levels he's not getting cleared to fight.
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Wouldn't the TRT theory be easy to debunk? He fought in Strikeforce in 2010 and 2011 and I don't ever remember him applying for anything there.

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