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post #81 of 322 (permalink) Old 04-19-2012, 01:41 PM
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I believe if Jones can out wrestle Rashad, Rashad is in big trouble. I really can't see Rashad holding off Jones while Jones is on top, Jones has some of the best ground and pound in MMA. Rashad mean while if he gets Jones down it'll be interesting to see how Jones does off his back, but Rashad doesn't have the killer ground and pound that Jones has.

Who gets the better on the feet will be key as well. If Evans can close the distance I believe he has much better hands and is more explosive then Jones. Evans I think with his speed and explosiveness has the best chance yet to put it on Jones on the feet. Though its very possible Jones will be able to use his kicks and reach to keep Evans at bay. This fight will likely have a bit of everything in it, I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
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Have you looked at Bones' strengths?

I have no doubt that a guy who got taken down by Tito Ortiz and Michael Bisping will get taken down by Jon Jones.
Yes, I have looked at his strengths. I've even complimented Jones many times and for those who have been on this site awhile, they'll know that at one point I was even a little bit of a fan. Thing is, I know what both fighters are capable of. Micheal Bisping surprised Rashad with a takedown about 5 years ago now, and Tito couldn't do anything for the 5 seconds he had Rashad down in their fight. So I have no doubt that even if Jones does get Rashad down, he isn't going to be doing anything to him. When it's the other way around, I think Jones' weakenesses will be exposed. That's just my opinion.

Also, what's with the mob mentality here? So because I don't lick the dried up bumcrack of Jones i'm a Bobby Cooper now? Really? Jesus. Sherdog alert.
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Yes, I have looked at his strengths. I've even complimented Jones many times and for those who have been on this site awhile, they'll know that at one point I was even a little bit of a fan. Thing is, I know what both fighters are capable of. Micheal Bisping surprised Rashad with a takedown about 5 years ago now, and Tito couldn't do anything for the 5 seconds he had Rashad down in their fight. So I have no doubt that even if Jones does get Rashad down, he isn't going to be doing anything to him. When it's the other way around, I think Jones' weakenesses will be exposed. That's just my opinion.

Also, what's with the mob mentality here? So because I don't lick the dried up bumcrack of Jones i'm a Bobby Cooper now? Really? Jesus. Sherdog alert.
True but Jones' top game is also miles ahead of Tito's and Bisping, he hurts guys instantly from the top and they don't ever recover.

Rashad should probably be able to sweep up to his feet since he's a black belt but if Jones can land anything meaningful as soon as he gets Evans down like he has in the past I think Rashad is in trouble, he's also got to watch out for shots on the way up like Jones did to Shogun.

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Also, what's with the mob mentality here? So because I don't lick the dried up bumcrack of Jones i'm a Bobby Cooper now? Really? Jesus. Sherdog alert.


Just a thought but it might be something like this.

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Believe me man, I will. In fact, I have memorised almost every single pro Jones post within the last few months, and I swear down I am going to quote every hardcore pro Jones statement after Rashad beats him. Gonna drag up months of the shit. The usual suspects will be quoted. Bet that.
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To the people who think Evans will win:

What do you guys think Evans has more to offer than say Rampage Jackson (who almost finished Evans) and Machida (who finished Evans). Machida was a hell lot faster than Evans, and Jones is about as fast, if not faster than Machida.. So what makes you guys think Evans will take the win?, Jones has 100% takedown defense, and Evans will most likely go for the takedown. I see Evans winning only in 1 way, fake the takedown and come with an overhand right.. The question is, whether Jones sees it coming or not.

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A lot of Evans' fans will be very disappointed on Saturday night, after some Jon Jones trademark "elbow savagery" on the ground.

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Rashad has sparred with Jones many times before, that is a huge advantage. He knows the reach of Jones and won't make the mistake of trying to land overhand rights while Jones has his hand in your face and his head tilted way back, you are never landing that punch on Jones.

Jones has pretty much had target practice with guys standing in front of him waiting for him to make a mistake and land a big punch(except Machida), Rashad won't make the same mistake, you can tell by the video of him recognizing this mistake while watching the Rampage fight. Rashad has been practicing with Tyrone, I doubt he goes head hunting Jones, he will circle him like Machida did and chop him down to the body and occasional leg kicks and bring that head down little by little, while also going for takedowns.

Jones is still the favorite in this fight, but most of his previous fighters had the monumental task of having to land a big bomb while going in and out, they were all freaked out of staying in clinching range with Jones, and freaked out of throwing leg kicks; Rashad on the other hand will welcome getting in a wrestling match with Jones but will probably still be reluctant to throw leg kicks, but so should Jones. For all of Phil Davis' standing up weakness, he is a powerful, powerful wrestler and Rashad was able to neutralize his wrestling, I am sure he will be able to do the same with Jones. If Rashad was able to put his ass on the ground a couple of years ago, he will be able to put his ass on the ground on Saturday.
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I can see Jones hitting Rashad with an illegal knee as they're clinched and rashad tries to stand up. The whole thing will be clouded in controversy and we'll have to listen to them talk shit for another month before the rematch.

But lets hope for a good fight!
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Rashad has sparred with Jones many times before, that is a huge advantage. He knows the reach of Jones and won't make the mistake of trying to land overhand rights while Jones has his hand in your face and his head tilted way back, you are never landing that punch on Jones.

Jones has pretty much had target practice with guys standing in front of him waiting for him to make a mistake and land a big punch(except Machida), Rashad won't make the same mistake, you can tell by the video of him recognizing this mistake while watching the Rampage fight. Rashad has been practicing with Tyrone, I doubt he goes head hunting Jones, he will circle him like Machida did and chop him down to the body and occasional leg kicks and bring that head down little by little, while also going for takedowns.

Jones is still the favorite in this fight, but most of his previous fighters had the monumental task of having to land a big bomb while going in and out, they were all freaked out of staying in clinching range with Jones, and freaked out of throwing leg kicks; Rashad on the other hand will welcome getting in a wrestling match with Jones but will probably still be reluctant to throw leg kicks, but so should Jones. For all of Phil Davis' standing up weakness, he is a powerful, powerful wrestler and Rashad was able to neutralize his wrestling, I am sure he will be able to do the same with Jones. If Rashad was able to put his ass on the ground a couple of years ago, he will be able to put his ass on the ground on Saturday.
Post of the week so far. Completely agreed.
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