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post #21 of 40 (permalink) Old 04-15-2012, 09:12 PM
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- St. Pierre
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I like Erick Silva, alot, but he's 1-1 (yeah I know one was a DQ) and the guy he beat doesn't even have a wiki page...I think he'll crack the top five in the future, but as of now I don't think he's top ten.
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Fitch has a loss and a draw in his last two and hasn't won a fight in almost 2 years. Shields dropped 2 of his last 3 and the lone win came over a guy who was already on a 3 fight losing skid. Honestly though I have always considered Kos the better of the AKA guys and think he is a better wrestler and a naturally better athlete than either Fitch or Shields. Fitch's record would keep him in the top 5 but lets be honest its a super competitive division and you need to win fights to stay at the top.
Fitch beat BJ. officially it was a draw, but youd have to be biased BJ fan to say it was a fair draw.
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Fitch beat BJ. officially it was a draw, but youd have to be biased BJ fan to say it was a fair draw.
Fitch/Penn was a clear draw, Penn took the first two rounds and Fitch came back and beat the absolute shit out of him in the third.

Should have been a five rounder though, Fitch would have finished Penn if it had been.

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saying fitch hasn't won in almost 2 years is like saying that gsp hasn't won in a year. it is true, but overly simplistic.

one punch knockout fights can only tell you so much about a matchup. as far as handicapping fights go, i wouldn't handicap a second hendricks fight any differently than the first.
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Fitch beat BJ. officially it was a draw, but youd have to be biased BJ fan to say it was a fair draw.
I think a better arguement could be made for giving Penn the fight than giving it to Fitch but the fight was maybe the clearest draw in the history of the sport. Two rounds not dominate to the point of a 10-8 but both clearly belonging to Penn and just as clearly Penn was dominated to a clear 10-8 in the 3rd. The least controversial draw in UFC history.




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LOL some guy negative repped me and called me a tool for putting Dan Hardy that Low. The dude has lost 4 in a row. He does not deserve to be in the top 15 or even top 20.
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1. George st Pierre
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I see some posters ranking Condit between 3 and 6.

The guy just beat Diaz to become the interim WW champ; I would think you would have to have him higher than Diaz.

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I see some posters ranking Condit between 3 and 6.

The guy just beat Diaz to become the interim WW champ; I would think you would have to have him higher than Diaz.

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People who use logic would, some people will swear up and down Diaz was robbed when it was a clear 48-47 for Condit.

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I see some posters ranking Condit between 3 and 6.

The guy just beat Diaz to become the interim WW champ; I would think you would have to have him higher than Diaz.

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I had Diaz winning the 1st, 2nd, and 5th rounds. That is why I have him ahead of Condit in my own rankings...because he beat him.

But it goes down in the books as a loss. So yea, in real life rankings based on wins and losses I guess people have to put Condit ahead.

But in my personal opinion Diaz is better and won that fight.
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