Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion
205 is still the most talent stacked division in MMA, Rashad, Hendo, Shogun, and Machida are still elite, Rampage still has a ton of talent but he's done mentally, Bader and Gustaffson are talented too and if Davis can improve his striking he's gonna be good too. No other division has that many former Champs and amount of talent.
The problem is while they're elite Jones is a notch above elite. 145 has Aldo but not really much else outside of Hioki everyone's on the same level and Hioki is a notch below Aldo, Barao should be fighting Cruz but Ass Chin has to be given a title shot every other fight despite the fact he was owned by MTB, owned by Aldo, and owned by Cruz. 135 isn't that bad, Cruz has just kicked everyone's ass already except Barao's. 145 is awful though.
I don't exactly agree. I think 205 definatlty still has the biggest names. And they have the most recognizable fighters.
The division definatly isn't deep. But I think the top is still very good. Machida, Shogun, and Evans have world class skills that guys like Poirier, Hioki, Korean Zombie, and Brad Pickett don't have. Hioki is like the 2nd ranked FW his bread and butter is his grappling....and he couldn't even sub George Roop after several minutes of grappling. He did do well vs. Bart....but why is Bart P. all of a sudden a real good fighter? Seems like those divisions you basically have to create contenders. Mendes was a wrestler who was undefeated....yet he got KO'd in 1 round. Mark Hominick fought for the belt...then turned around and was KOd by the Korean Zombie.
1. Bones (elite champ)
2. Evans (a guy with 1 loss and several good wins)
3. Hendo (just beat Shogun and beat Fedor, one of the best of all time and still looking good)
4. Shogun (a legend, a handful for anyone in the division besides Bones)
5. Gustaf (easily beat Thiago Silva. Has really easily beat everyone besides Phil Davis. Obvious striking talent with improvement everywhere else. Still getting better)
6. Machida (still dangerous for anyone. still one of the trickiest styles to fight against. World class accuracy and escapability.
7. Bader (not a huge fan, but just beat Rampage, and only has 2 losses. Huge power, good wrestling)
8. Phil Davis (raw still, great wrestling talent)
9. Mousasi (has talent, would like to see him vs. better fighters)
10. Rampage (pretty much done. But it is still crazy to have a guy like Page ranked all the way down to 10th. Still better than any guy 135 or 145 wanted to put as their 10th best fighter)