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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-17-2012, 08:08 AM Thread Starter
 
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All former UFC LHW champions weigh in on Jones vs. Evans

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The UFC is often criticized for not respecting the history of the sport or even their own promotion. With UFC 145 coming up this Saturday, featuring a much anticipated Light Heavyweight title fight between champ Jon Jones and ex-champ Rashad Evans they have gone out of their way to correct that to some extent.

The LHW crown has long been the marquee title in the UFC. From the days of Frank Shamrock and Tito Ortiz in the "dark ages" on to the Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Vitor Belfort era in the early Ultimate Fighter days the division was always the home of the promotion's biggest fights.

The UFC has gathered quotes from every ex-LHW champ in UFC history -- even Frank Shamrock who was long been treated like he never happened -- on this Saturday's bout.

Frank Shamrock, inaugural champion from Dec. 21 1997 to Nov. 24, 1999
"This fight has a tremendous story behind it, with it having grown out of a friendship that went sour back when these two were teammates. The drama that's fueling this is incredible. Fans can expect a fight that, stylistically, will be extremely challenging for Jones to overcome, and he'll have fits with Rashad's wrestling if he's able to put Jon on his back. But ultimately, I see Jones being able to inflict more damage and walk away with the belt still in hand. This will be a fight that will not end as easily and devastatingly as Jones's others have, but rather one of those moments in his career where he'll have to pull himself up and battle until the final bell. In the end, this fight will help Jon become a better fighter and a better champion, and will endear himself to fans for years to come."

Maurico "Shogun" Rua, champion from May 8, 2010 to Mar 19, 2011
"They are two very smart, strategic athletes. Both of them fight thinking of their opponent's strengths and weaknesses and think about how to fight the best possible fight to win. But I think Jon Jones has an advantage, since he is very hard to reach. He is not only long (limbed) but also fast and he can react very quickly, I know this. So, I think it's going to be Jones' match. However, let's not forget Rashad is also very strategic. I believe Rashad will have a good gameplan and I am very interested to see what he will try to do in this fight."

Lyoto Machida, champion from May 23, 2009 to May 8, 2010
"Jones vs Evans is a big fight for the fans and a big fight for the division. It is a very interesting fight; Jones is very unorthodox and is strong in all aspects of the game, but Rashad is a great wrestler and has the hand speed to catch Jones."

Forrest Griffin, champion from Jul 5, 2008 to Dec 27 2008
"This is a great fight. I'm glad I'm not fighting Jon Jones anytime soon, but I think Rashad has the right style to give him problems. There are so many emotions between these guys going into the fight, and I know the Atlanta fans will be getting their money's worth. Jones looks very nasty, but I'm not going to underestimate Rashad. I kinda did that before once..."

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, champion from May 26, 2007 to Jul 5, 2008
"Rashad has to go for it right from the start, for real. Rashad can't play on the outside, you can't fight no Jon Jones on the outside, believe me. Rashad is fast and can surprise you. He surprised me by faking a takedown and hitting me with a right hand which kinda stunned me. I think he can do that to Jon Jones, but he has to do it right away because the more time you give Jones, the harder it is to set him up for a punch. I think Jon Jones will win, but I think Rashad has a chance."

Chuck Liddell, champion from Apr 16, 2005 to May 26, 2007
"Everyone is different but, I think, for most fighters getting into the Octagon with someone they don't like is a great motivation in training. Every time you are tired or holding a little back, you think about losing to this guy you can't stand and it helps you give 100%. That's how I was with Tito, I couldn't stand the idea of losing to him and so I trained harder.

"I'd love to know who really got the best of it when these guys trained together. You get a feeling for someone when you spar with them. That's why I was so confident against Tito; I'd beat him up standing, wrestling and at BJJ when we trained together years before out fights and I knew I was in his head because of that. Listening to Rashad, it seems from watching the Primetime show that he feels he's in Jon's head a little. He sounds very confident and I think that's based on experiences in the gym. I'm glad he is confident, because that's something you have to have against Jones. If you don't go after Jon you are in for a bad night."

Vitor Belfort, champion from Jan 31, 2004 to Aug 21, 2004
"I think this fight will be great for the sport because Jones and Evans used to train together. That changes things, now they are going to fight against each other. We are in the new era of sport with these athletes like Jon Jones and the techniques they can do. Both guys have a chance to be the winner, and it could come down to who is better on that one night. I am looking forward to seeing this huge fight."

Randy Couture, two-time champion from Jun 6, 2003 to Jan 31, 2004 and Aug 21, 2004 to Apr 16, 2005
"I think it is going to be very interesting, Rashad has the speed and skills to win. Rashad has to avoid his propensity for standing up and just striking, which he has done in the past. He can't just strike with Jones; if he does he will lose because Jon has more tools in the toolbox. Rashad has to take Jones down, not just once or twice but every single time he has any opportunity. If Jones is worried about getting taken down, that's when Rashad can put his hands on him and do some damage. But he has to keep Jon guessing if it is a takedown or a strike that's coming.

"I think Jones is super-talented and he is clearly getting better in each fight. He could turn into a very special type of champion. He poses some very unique problems in the Octagon - and so far no one has solved too many of them. I think this is a huge fight for the division. "Bones" Jones is very hot right now and with the personalities and the back story, it all hypes this up into a very interesting fight."

Tito Ortiz, champion from Apr 14, 2000 to Sep 26, 2003
"Jones is looking very good. But Rashad is fast, man, and once he hurts you he's on you. I'd like to see Rashad use his wrestling and takedowns and really mix it up. I think it will be a great fight."

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Very interesting indeed. While Jones is the favourite, I have no doubt that Rashad has a few tricks up his sleeve.


What Couture said basically nailed it on the head:

"Rashad has to take Jones down, not just once or twice but every single time he has any opportunity. If Jones is worried about getting taken down, that's when Rashad can put his hands on him and do some damage. But he has to keep Jon guessing if it is a takedown or a strike that's coming."


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Is it just me or did nobody but Rampage even say who they think will win?




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Is it just me or did nobody but Rampage even say who they think will win?
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I see Jones being able to inflict more damage and walk away with the belt still in hand.
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So, I think it's going to be Jones' match.
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I think Jon Jones will win, but I think Rashad has a chance."
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Rampage said it best for me (Who woulda thought it)

'I think Jon Jones will win, but I think Rashad has a chance'

Albeit imo a slim one.
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Rampage sure changes his opinion a lot. First he says Rashad will win and now Jones? Make up your mind
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I think Chuck nailed it. There's a reason Rashad is so confident and Jones and others are saying things like "he was a kid then, he's a man now." or "he's a totally different fighter now".

No... contrary to popular opinion he is in fact, the same person that Rashad knows.

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The only ones actually giving a prediction are saying Jones. Everyone else is trying to say why they think that Rashad has a chance, but none are willing to predict him to win. Yep, sounds about right.
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Nice! It's always great to hear from other fighters.

But I think Jon Jones has an advantage, since he is very hard to reach. He is not only long (limbed) but also fast and he can react very quickly, I know this. - damn...couldn't help but chuckle a little bit.

If Evans can take JBJ down he might unleash some serious ground and pound. JBJ has rookie/I'm ultra talented/basically undefeated confidence in him. Evans has "I was once a LHW champ, trained + beat yo ass, veteran confidence."

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I think Chuck nailed it. There's a reason Rashad is so confident and Jones and others are saying things like "he was a kid then, he's a man now." or "he's a totally different fighter now".

No... contrary to popular opinion he is in fact, the same person that Rashad knows.
How is he the same man? he is evolving every fight, if you can't see it, then I really don't know what to say. To say that JBJ and Rashad are the same fighters today, than when they trained together is pretty far fetched.

I'm sure JBJ evolved his game by leaps and bounds since they trained together, and I'm sure Rashad got better as well. You are constantly evolving as a fighter, from week to week, and fight to fight.
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