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Old 04-18-2012, 08:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Lombard's mediocre at best and he's already getting old. I don't have much interest seeing him in the UFC at this point.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lombard's mediocre at best and he's already getting old. I don't have much interest seeing him in the UFC at this point.
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Don't guys like Anderson, Rampage, Jones, and guys like that get PPV %?

I can't imagine Lombard being in that group, right off the bat anyway.
All main event and usually co-main guys get it typically to some degree. (those guys you mentioned are guaranteed a cut regardless of position on card). Lobard doesn't necessarily ever need to get an actual % they just need to have it in there that if he wins a couple fights he will get an upper card position and a PPV cut. Its just about getting it in there so Bellator can't match it.
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Don't guys like Anderson, Rampage, Jones, and guys like that get PPV %?

I can't imagine Lombard being in that group, right off the bat anyway.
Agreed.

Lombard wouldn't get PPV revenue. He isn't a main event fighter, he doesn't have much of a name to casual fans, he isn't proven in the UFC.

If the UFC wants him they would just give him and offer that Bellator can't match money wise. They aren't that new to signing guys away from other promotions.
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Take a look at his record. His best win is a decision over Shlemenko. Not many people can go on a 20 fight win streak in MMA, I'll give him that. But, it's all against mid-level competition.
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He needs to come to the UFC and face real competition. His record is insanely overrated.
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Take a look at his record. His best win is a decision over Shlemenko. Not many people can go on a 20 fight win streak in MMA, I'll give him that. But, it's all against mid-level competition.
For me Lombard is an unknown.

I think he would be an ok fighter in the UFC. But I highly doubt ever top 5 MW. Maybe on the back end of the top 10.

He really gets overrated by some people. He is devastating, but what about his technique? Cardio? Wrestling? Patience against a real MMA fighter?

So far he has beat up most all cans. Hard to really say.

If he stays with Bellator we will basically know that he knows he wouldn't do well in the UFC.

There is no good reason to stay in Bellator forever when the UFC is offering a contract. If you win in the UFC you move up in pay. If you get KOs like he wwas in Bellator he would rack up KOTN awards. Only good reason is that you are comfortable with being the big fish in a very small pond.

Ultimately the man is 34 years old. He has a 73 inch reach. And stands 5'9. And has fought 1 legit guy in his whole career and lost. Plus he doesn't have much of a name. So I'm not all that sure that the UFC is clamoring over the thought of getting him. They probably made him an alright offer...and if he stays with Bellator it will be now sweat off the UFC's back.

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Shlemenko is a great win and the guy doesn't get finished all the time so i don't see the reason for noting it as a decision victory.

His record isn't littered with top names but neither are the UFC's middleweights.

He matches up very well with most and I'm not saying he would be champ but he is without a doubt a great addition and could possibly crack the top five.
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Agreed.

Lombard wouldn't get PPV revenue. He isn't a main event fighter, he doesn't have much of a name to casual fans, he isn't proven in the UFC.

If the UFC wants him they would just give him and offer that Bellator can't match money wise. They aren't that new to signing guys away from other promotions.
Why would they offer him more money? If he wants in the UFC they can offer him the same basic money he is getting offered from Bellator but structure it with PPV revenue so that Bellator can't match the terms of the deal.
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Not sure but I guarantee if the UFC actually wants him then they would include a pay scale based on money paid per PPV buy because that is a term of the offer Bellator by not having PPV would be unable to match. It basically would give Lombard an out to work around Bellator's matching clause.
I tend to agree. If they really want him, they could insert poison pills in his contract that Bellator can't swallow.

If I were doing it, I'd have something like, If Lombard's fight isn't on network television or a PPV that generates at least 150k buys (at a cost of $40 or more) he's compensated for the lack of publicity with a five million dollar bonus. Zuffa can make that provision cost $0, but it would cost Bellator $5M every time he fights on top of his regular terms.
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