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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 04-18-2012, 05:55 PM
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Sonnen hardly lost to Brian Stann, he steamrolled him. You're thinking of the Bisping fight where he out-struck and out-grappled Bisping all three rounds. People completely overreacted to that fight just because Chael said Bisping's punches hurt.
Yes mate, sorry for that. I mean Bisping. He really didn't out-struck nor grapple him. And if they fought within the new rules (main non-championship fights = 5 rounds) ? Then Bispin would have torn him a part. I really don't know how he got that W!!!

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I think all of the recent rematches have been well deserved.

Rematches should be for close championship fights. They have all been close. Rather then getting annoyed by it, we should be happy we have been blessed with some awesome close fights.


If GSP loses his next fight and doesn't look sharp, he'll get a rematch no matter how he loses. The UFC will pitch the whole injury lay off as the reason.

If Silva loses to somebody marketable like Bisping ( lol ) or Sonnen, I suspect Dana wont give him a rematch instantly.

That's my reckoning.
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GSP has lost before we have see it, but he will get a rematch. Franklin has lost and had his rematch. If Silva was to lose and not get an instant rematch some if seriously wrong.

What year is it 2012? Silva has been holding that belt since 06. To put that in perspective, Jon Jones was still in high school, Chuck was the LHW king pin, Tito was a superstar, GSP had not won the WW title yet, Sylvia was the HW champ,..best of yet Pride was still around.

Chael Sonnen clearly lost but had his instant rematch, he just got suspended. Plus What do you do with silva if he loses? Give him Belfort,Okam,Stann,Bisping who all poses zero threat to him as they will stand up with him and get KO.
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If they lost their belts? Would it depend on how close the fights were? Would they automatically get it due to the length of their reigns? With Edgar getting a rematch with no rhyme or reason, anyone can. So I'm inclined to answer this question with "yes".
As much as a fan I am of Silva/GSP, I despise and completely disagree with the idea of instant rematches.

Someone works their ass off to get a title shot and win the belt, then get a rematch, what if they lose? Is that an instant rematch? I just think the idea is biased and completely unfair to the rest of the fighters in that respective division.

My philosophy - You lost your title, earn your way back up like everyone else.
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As much as a fan I am of Silva/GSP, I despise and completely disagree with the idea of instant rematches.

Someone works their ass off to get a title shot and win the belt, then get a rematch, what if they lose? Is that an instant rematch? I just think the idea is biased and completely unfair to the rest of the fighters in that respective division.

My philosophy - You lost your title, earn your way back up like everyone else.
I agree but GSP/Silva are special cases. When you have spent that amount of time holding onto the that belt and being top dog for over half a decade i think they have earned an instant rematch.

The middle weight belt came into play at ufc 33, there has been 4 champions then silva. He has held that belt for 2013 days, the second highest is 497, who is rich franklin.
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Because that would change something?
Split decisions in themselves are controversial as it typically means a close fight and many thinking the losing fighter actually won.

The fact that it was scored UD makes many question the judging.

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It all depends on the fight, if GSP dominated Condit for 4 rounds and then in the 4th Condit was awarded a controversial stoppage then absolutely. If Silva gets dominated for 5 rounds by Sonnen again but doesn't manage to pull out something out of his bag of tricks then there is no need for it. If either is involved in a real close or controversial fight then you can expect a rematch.




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No, I don't think so. I think for both these fighters the UFC would get more hype and views off of the "Road back to the championship" for both of these fighters. I do think they would only have to win a fight or two and it would be against top 5/10 competition.

Although if there was some controversial ending, like a SD when the champ clearly won, or something like that there would be a rematch.
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I think it depends. If they lose big with no controversy such as an illegal hit or PED's then no. If so then yes. If it is a razor thin decision such as Machida/Shogun or Edgar Penn I then probobly.

But if they get Kod, subbed, or dominated to a UD then no.

Many thought Edgar won or that he at least lost a split decision, plus you have to factor in him having to re-match twice.
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Split decisions in themselves are controversial as it typically means a close fight and many thinking the losing fighter actually won.

The fact that it was scored UD makes many question the judging.
Why do so many MMA (and boxing) fans think fights should be scored as a split decision? It just sounds foolish and like they don't know what a split decision is.

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I think it's pretty obvious that it all comes down to the fight.

Close, BS decision - absolutely.
A solid loss - nope.

Whatever would happen, they'd so be favored for the shot though. Penn got an immediate rematch for being Penn and Cain got a contenders fight after being KOd by the chamo in the first.

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