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View Poll Results: Which guy would you most like to see against Jones style wise?

Pride Shogun 14 26.42%
Prime Randy 5 9.43%
Prime Chuck 16 30.19%
Fedor 2012 6 11.32%
Roger Gracie 0 0%
King Mo 3 5.66%
Chael + Roid Pass 8 15.09%
Pride Wandy 6 11.32%
Phil Davis 0 0%
Gustafasson 8 15.09%
Anderson 31 58.49%
Any decent heavyweight 11 20.75%
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Prime Wandy/Shogun/Fedor (why no prime Fedor vote?).
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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most of the options are either wannabe cowards, or jokers that won fake battles at pride
its a good list of ferocious style match ups.

i left off some prime heavyweights because i think they would destroy jones.

he is the lhw goat at this point, but realistically, shogun is worn and so is rampage. rashad and machida are great wins though however you cut it.

i think fedor would ruin jones to be honest. i see the style match up as a nightmare for jones. pride fedor would be an ass kicking imo. physically and style wise it would be disgusting. to be honest i dont see him getting much change out of nog or cro cop either.

i think with jones there is a tipping point where his advantages stop being critical. then you are left with a skinny dude with passable stand up and a light frame for heavyweight.

jones v brock? common.
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this is a question about styles and about match ups.

you can pick a few

which style/fighter would most likely give him the worst trouble?

Anderson maybe, but JBJ is taller, younger and bigger and I think would beat Andy.
You have to go to the Heavies to look for guys who could beat JBJ, and I think he'd hang with any of them.
The guy who can beat JBJ is a 265lb heavyweight who is about 18 now and we don't know about yet.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Prime Wandy/Shogun/Fedor (why no prime Fedor vote?).
prime fedor would prison **** him. what am i? 14?

and even if you dont agree, i wanted to keep it to light heavies and a few potential other options.

if i go down the road of prime heavies from pride and from ufc then thats a whole different thread.

jon jones is unproven at heavyweight. for all we know he gets ruined by brendan schaub. it could actually happen very easily. thats why i left them out of it and tried to focus on different style challenges in his own rough weight range.

i left a "any decent heavyweight" section to allow that alternate choice.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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prime fedor would prison **** him. what am i? 14?

and even if you dont agree, i wanted to keep it to light heavies and a few potential other options.

if i go down the road of prime heavies from pride and from ufc then thats a whole different thread.

jon jones is unproven at heavyweight. for all we know he gets ruined by brendan schaub. it could actually happen very easily. thats why i left them out of it and tried to focus on different style challenges in his own rough weight range.

i left a "any decent heavyweight" section to allow that alternate choice.
Any decent HW is the only real option. I don't really consider Fedor a true, modern day HW - he's a tweener.
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Any decent HW is the only real option. I don't really consider Fedor a true, modern day HW - he's a tweener.
i dont really buy the well rounded monsters with stamina thing to be honest. who actually fits that description in retrospect? carwin? lesnar? ubereem?

it seems to be a power/speed+stamina trade off between the two divisions and historically the best of both divisions has comparable amounts of both. the best heavies just had more so. cro cop v wandy would be a good example of this.
wandy could beat quite a few sapps i imagine, but against someone like cro cop, he is facing a guy that basically hits that little bit harder.

as for the heavyweight jones option...itd be cool to see him do a silva and fight a can and then a guy measured for his strengths if things dry up at lhw. maybe just experimentally. but the trouble is it may be hard to go back down and the downside is if he loses, it discredits the name. if he got ktfo by mark hunt for instance, where does that leave the light heavyweight division. only a few months ago i remember sherdog radio saying how jones would tool hunt or ben rothwell. they were specifically cited as crap heavyweights that jones would walk through. since their fight schaub and kongo have been knocked into stupidity by these guys.

imagine if that conceit had been played out by dana and these live dogs had bitten his poster boy. perhaps unjustly we would be left with a joke for a light heavyweight division. it doesnt matter that mousassi no less has a vic against hunt. it doesnt matter than some of the light heavy weights could potentially beat a few heavies. the king of the lhws would be getting his jaw wired and ufc would have a ghost division by proxy.

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Old 04-27-2012, 10:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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tbh...I think Anderson is Jones only real challenge in the UFC currently
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tbh...I think Anderson is Jones only real challenge in the UFC currently
So you would consider him a massive favorite over JDS, Cain and Overeem? I only said massive favorite because you said "real challenge". Not trolling I'm truly curious.
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So you would consider him a massive favorite over JDS, Cain and Overeem? I only said massive favorite because you said "real challenge". Not trolling I'm truly curious.
ehhh

honestly...Im not even considering any of the HW's right now...thats kinda a pie in the sky. More realistically a MW or LHW, and that would be Anderson.
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I picked a hw. like rogan was saying no one has taken jon jones down in the UFC and I think it would have to be a hw that could do that. I dont really see anyone beating him on that list except maybe anderson, he is just too damn good. not even a fan of the guy but his fighting is amazing
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