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Old 04-27-2012, 01:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What? Why does Anderson need to fight in Brazil to help his brand/ To be more popular with the Brazilians?

And the UFC tried to have the fight in Brazil, then a problem occured and they could'nt. Its not like the UFC just said screw it were not having this fight in Brazil.

They are doing what is best for the UFC and probobly everyone else.

Anderson is going to argue and squeeze as much money out of a company that has already given him the oppertunity to become rich and famouse? And Im sure he was already being paid handsomely for this fight.
Im not sure if you're just arguing for the sake of arguing or you truly have not clue about branding and marketing, or business in general.

Do you not think that Anderson would benefit from having his name plastered all over the place in brazil, as they try to sell out 50+ thousand seats, would not help his brand? You do not understand that selling out a venue in a city means A LOT more advertising dollars in the city than they will ever put into trying to sell a PPV in Las Vegas?

If these things confuse you, we should not continue this conversation.

Also, as for Chael being 'smart' with his gimmick, I guess the intelligent thing about it is that he panders to those easily amused and to the somewhat closeted racists. There are millions of them so if/when he makes a buck on every single one of them, that makes him a very smart millionaire.
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Here's the bad part about having the UFC in all these different countries now. Now you get a champ who is dominant and marketable and he holds the company ransom to fight outside of his comfort zone. I don't have a lot of respect for that attitude. I highly doubt a guy like GSP demands to fight in Canada and would hold the UFC ransom if he had to fight in Vegas.

With that said, Anderson agreed to fight in Brazil for this fight so the UFC had to do something to accomodate for this fight.
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Again, more senseless implications. I bet you could count the number of "Sonnen haters" on this forum on one hand.

Indifference =/= disdain.

If anything, most posters here dislike the grossly over-exaggerated nuthugging his 12 or so fans do anytime the guy does an interview....but it really isn't that much of an issue. The real issue is whether or not people think he's going to beat Silva or not.

The dude is nothing like Fedor was...Fedor was a polarizing figure. Jones is a polarizing figure.

Sonnen is just some dude who caught a good streak towards the end of his career and hired some dude to help him market himself.
Wow. For someone who says they dont hate Sonnen, they just dont care about him you sure do have some strong feelings about the guy.

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Im not sure if you're just arguing for the sake of arguing or you truly have not clue about branding and marketing, or business in general.

Do you not think that Anderson would benefit from having his name plastered all over the place in brazil, as they try to sell out 50+ thousand seats, would not help his brand? You do not understand that selling out a venue in a city means A LOT more advertising dollars in the city than they will ever put into trying to sell a PPV in Las Vegas?

If these things confuse you, we should not continue this conversation.

Also, as for Chael being 'smart' with his gimmick, I guess the intelligent thing about it is that he panders to those easily amused and to the somewhat closeted racists. There are millions of them so if/when he makes a buck on every single one of them, that makes him a very smart millionaire.
Not sure what you are talking about with the closeted racist comment. Maybe its just ignorance on your part.

Also, what is plastering AS name all over Brazil do? It would sell a lot of tickets, but would not make him much more popular in Brazil as Im sure he is probobly the most popular MMA fighter there. Sure selling out a venue helps a persons brand, but when was the last time a card with AS did not sell out regardless of where it is. He should sell out in Brazil, Him selling out a venue in Australia is more telling about his brand than selling out in Brazil.

Im sure the UFC was looking forward to using Anderson to make a lot of money in Brazil and probobly to generate more PPV buys as the fact that SOnnen was fighting AS in Brazil was becoming a much anticipated moment.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes, I'm sure that behind those innocuous lines of keytype was some vitriol towards Sonnen.
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Yes, I'm sure that behind those innocuous lines of keytype was some vitriol towards Sonnen.
Dude, Im just commenting on your words. You typed them. If you realy dont care about Sonnen then just quit responding.
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Does it really matter where you fight?

Sounds like Anderson being a baby about losing his home field advantage and having to deal with the fact Sonnen won't fold like Belfort and Okami.
I would be pissed if I was promised a chance to fight in front of 60,000 of my countrymen, then told that it's not going to happen because my boss doesn't know how to plan properly.
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Fighting in Brazil was one of the major selling points for the rematch and I'm sure the event could have been rescheduled a week or two or even a month.

My guess is UFC just wanted the fight in Vegas and the UN crap was their excuse. At this point in Anderson's career he needs to be more vocal and hold his ground against Dana.

I would have gouged the shit out of them.
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Dude, Im just commenting on your words. You typed them. If you realy dont care about Sonnen then just quit responding.
Except this topic is wholly related to Sonnen in one of the biggest fights of the year and one that any real MMA fan would care about.

You are one confused individual if you believe simply discussing a fighter, or acknowledging his existence equates to having a near psychotic hate-crush on him.
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I would be pissed if I was promised a chance to fight in front of 60,000 of my countrymen, then told that it's not going to happen because my boss doesn't know how to plan properly.
How do you know it was the UFCs fault? Dana White has been planning events for years now and has not had this happen. How do you know the UN did not schedule after the UFC did?

AS has a right to be upset and disappointed, but why are they having to work hard to convince him to fight elsewhere?
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Except this topic is wholly related to Sonnen in one of the biggest fights of the year and one that any real MMA fan would care about.

You are one confused individual if you believe simply discussing a fighter, or acknowledging his existence equates to having a near psychotic hate-crush on him.
Well, you say you dont hate the guy, but almost every word you post is pretty much hate towards that fighter. What am I supposed to think? That you genuinely do not care about Sonnen. You obviously do not like the guy and there is nothing wrong with that, he is polarizing. Why dont you just admit you dont like Sonnen and that you root against him in every fight no matter who he fights?
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