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Old 04-27-2012, 05:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't get why non silva fans have a hard time understanding why he might be mad at the venue change.

Simply put:
-He is at home, gets to see his family
-Does not have to travel to train
-Fighting in his country (sense of pride)

Also why are people giving Anderson heat for questionably putting the event in jeopardy, when it was in fact Chael Sonnen who delay the rematch by getting suspended. This fight was suppose to happen early 2011. Say what you want about Silva's objection , but when he was fighting Vitor and Okami it was Chael SOnnen ass that was sitting at home. Had he been clean Silva would have fought him ages ago in a rematch.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Yeah because Sonnen is the p4p champion and is allowed to make demands like that
Lulz @ p4p Champion. It's hard to have a p4p champion when no such division exists. That's right up there with Chael's People's Champion deceleration. Both are ridiculous.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:18 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Lulz @ p4p Champion. It's hard to have a p4p champion when no such division exists. That's right up there with Chael's People's Champion deceleration. Both are ridiculous.
#1 P4P fighter and reigning champion. Was it is really that hard to figure out what I meant or you're just slow?

And if you don't think p4p exist you should send Dana White a memo along with the entire mma and boxing community.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:33 PM   #44 (permalink)
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#1 P4P fighter and reigning champion. Was it is really that hard to figure out what I meant or you're just slow?

And if you don't think p4p exist you should send Dana White a memo along with the entire mma and boxing community.
P4P exists sure, but it's 100%, completely objective and there's no such thing as a "real" #1 P4P. I could say Jones is P4P, or Aldo, or GSP.

The term P4P might exist and be real, but the "factual" P4P is an illusion full of objections and opinions that are overall meaningless and have no real weight whatsoever.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:00 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The term P4P might exist and be real, but the "factual" P4P is an illusion full of objections and opinions that are overall meaningless and have no real weight whatsoever.
This^^

P4P is about as meaningful as Chael calling himself the People's Champ.
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Yeah. Sonnen could care less where the fight is, he just wants to kick Andersons ass. Anderson should not waist his time on where the fight takes place and just show up amd fight.

Shit happens and the UFC has to do what they have to do. You would think that a veteran like AS would understand that. Or is he just being a diva.
"Couldn't care less"

Ironically this is all I care about this discussion.
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P4P exists sure, but it's 100%, completely objective and there's no such thing as a "real" #1 P4P. I could say Jones is P4P, or Aldo, or GSP.

The term P4P might exist and be real, but the "factual" P4P is an illusion full of objections and opinions that are overall meaningless and have no real weight whatsoever.


Did you mean subjective? And yes you could say Aldo is #1 but if 50 other publications including the UFC say Andy is #1 then that will likely stand.

Also how could a fighters record be meaningless? That's what P4P is based on. Have you ever heard of power rankings or MVP awards like all the major sports leagues have? They are based on pretty much the same thing. Win streaks, level of competition, title defenses, skills and dominance.


There is some subjectivity involved as with ALL rankings. However that doesn't change the fact that its real. Think of a musician who wins a grammy for musician of the year 6 yrs in a row. You may disagree but it counts for something regardless what you think of the process.
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You really shouldn't hate Chael because he has a terrible disease that he needs treatment for.
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Not an apples to apples comparison.

Sonnen does what he does for his brand and to help promote fights and to be honest he is very smart about it and it will lead to more PPV sales. He has never refused to fight in a specific venue. Im not saying Anderson cant be disappointed, but get over it and go fight. Dont sit there and throw a hissy fit because the fight has to be moved.
chael sonnen ppv numbers

98 : 635000 (evans vs machida)
104 : 475000 (machida vs shogun, ALSO had cain but cain wasnt a draw then)
109 : 275000 (couture vs coleman)
117 : 600000 (Anderson silva.)
136 : 250000 (edgar vs maynard, aldo vs mendes)


See the differences? Now he might get a few more buys for this fight... but its hes already fighting against a HUGE draw so unless the PPV doesnt 1 mil +, he might as well have not done all that marketing because it makes him look like a fool to anyone that is not a nitwit.
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